• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 months ago

    Thanks for the advice but it doesn’t answer my questions.

    It also ignores the context of the conversation. The commenter seems to be implying that you shouldn’t vote for Biden. And I would like to hear their suggestion.

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      8 months ago

      There is no option to end the genocide on the ballot in November, that’s the point. Your time is better spent pushing one of the options that is on the ballot towards ending support.

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        8 months ago

        I am happy to see your passion. And I agree with you but I am asking the person, whom I should be voting for in their opinion. I want to hear THEIR opinion. Thanks.

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            You understand that responding in Public to a public discourse is the default unless you want to hide something.

            Blaming me for “wasting everyone’s time” for asking someone else a question in public in response to that person’s public statement, how odd.

            How is it leading and disingenuous to ask someone about their opinion on an issue? Especially if I don’t limit their options what so ever. I guess it is leading if you already think it is disingenuous, which would raise the question “what makes you think that?”. But I don’t want to waste your time like you wasted mine and everyone else’s by responding to a question that you didn’t attempt to even answer and wasn’t asked to you either.

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              If you don’t want someone else answering your open question on a public forum, then don’t place that question on an open forum. Doing so makes it look like you’re not actually asking the question so that it’s answered, you’re asking it to score rhetorical points against an opponent.

              But I don’t want to waste your time like you wasted mine and everyone else’s by responding to a question that you didn’t attempt to even answer and wasn’t asked to you either.

              Lmao, idk I think I did answer it, you just didn’t like it because it wasn’t within the binary you were trying to frame the issue through (even though you totally weren’t trying to ‘limit their options what so ever’)

              But I don’t want to waste your time like you wasted mine

              If you think i’m wasting your time you can block me.

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                I asked for whom to vote from a ending the genocide perspective and why that. You “answered” by telling me what I should be doing outside of voting.

                That is like someone asks you how they could fix their dietary habits and you tell them to do sports. Sports are probably a good advice but it isn’t helping them to fix their dietary habits. It is missing the point. It isn’t answering the question.

                I am not gonna bother with your rhetorical points insult, as it is based in the assumption that I don’t want an answer because I don’t accept answers that fail to answer the question.

                Whether or not, a question is answered, is a pretty binary issue. but I think you mean the election with 7(?) candidates. Of which I would accept any as a response, if one was given. I am not sure about how that is binary though.

                Oh the wasting time stuff was to point out the absurd nature of your impaction that I am wasting anyone’s time by asking a question that they can ignore, compared to bothering someone who is actively looking for an answer with non-answers.

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                  I asked for whom to vote from a ending the genocide perspective and why that. You “answered” by telling me what I should be doing outside of voting.

                  Because you can’t end a genocide by voting, that’s why it’s a disingenuous question and I think you know that. You can leverage a vote to push for it, but none of the candidates are beholden to doing jack shit once they’re actually in office even if they claim to support ending it, so the best course of action is to pressure the one that’s in office now.

                  That’s the point of those of us who say it doesn’t matter who you vote for in the context of ending Palestinian genocide - it wouldn’t change the outcome without outside action regardless.

                  wasting anyone’s time by asking a question that they can ignore, compared to bothering someone who is actively looking for an answer with non-answers.

                  You’re wasting people’s time who would happily explain the perspective to you if not for the deliberate attempt to frame the question around electoral politics.

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                    Mate, I would agree with you if you wouldn’t fail to realize that I ask someone who made a statement regarding the election in the context of ending the genocide. Acting like I set the scene, is dishonest. I am sure you aren’t doing it intentional. You just forgot.

                    And you are right and wrong about being unable about ending a genocide by voting. You are also kinda unable to end it by protesting… Until it actually works. It is an attempt. An attempt is something and something is better than nothing while people die.

                    Also let’s not act like saying you wouldn’t vote for Biden over it isn’t pressuring the current one in power.

                    And you might also should have realized that in my question I asked included the likelihood of the desired outcome. So I had the whole breaking election promises, betting on the wrong horse and it all being fucking pointless covered.

                    And btw. Now you gave me an answer to my question from your perspective, it doesn’t matter because it doesn’t change shit. In other words, vote for whoever you want for other reasons. I know your opinion and I got my answer from you. Still not the guy that I asked but at least an answer.