I’ll be interested to see what they have in store for the next iPadOS at WWDC. I fully anticipate them continuing to underutilize the horsepower of the Pros
Gotta keep those weirdly under-specced non-pro macbooks selling somehow
how are MacBook airs under specced?
8GB of memory on your base model was ridiculous half a decade ago, it’s a crime in 2024.
I’d also say a quarter of a terabyte is nowhere near enough storage for a computer a quarter of the cost.
I’m not a Mac hater, the (non-baseline with recent revisions) MBP line has been pretty fantastic for as long as I’ve been using them (over a decade now), but the baseline non-pro models are a waste of money.
8GB RAM is enough if you don’t know what RAM is. But not for that price.
My Mini at work has 8gb that I can’t upgrade, and honestly, the only time it’s ever a real issue is when I’m running a Win11 VM that eats up half the RAM.
However, with the cost of RAM now, speccing 8gb on any £1000+ computers is downright criminal.
Ram and disk for price point.
iPadOS feels like a real bottleneck for the iPad Pro line now. All that horsepower but limited room to gallop.
I’m not an advocate of putting macOS on iPads, but iPadOS really needs to expand more, especially for things like file management and multitasking. Multiple audio channels when?
I’ve seen some people speculating based on the new Magic Keyboard having an Esc key that something dev friendly is coming so who knows.
I think the option to dual boot or run some type of virtualized sandbox should be present at this point for power users.
macOS is really not optimised for touch though. macOS on a 13 inch iPad with a keyboard and trackpad attached would probably be usable, albeit with limited IO. But trying to use macOS with just fingers isn’t going to be much fun, especially for more complicated software.
Personally I’d rather see Apple further develop iPadOS as a touch first productivity OS, and leave macOS for the Mac.
Maybe if Apple opens up the App Store rules (willingly or not) more eventually virtualisation will be possible on an iPad, allowing people to DIY a macOS-on-iPad setup if they really wanted to.
macOS is really not optimised for touch though.
People say that a lot, but it’s probably not true.
It has been the bottleneck since they put the M1 in the iPad.
I know it’s their own press release and this happens with all sorts of companies, but their choice of “stunning” disgusts me
Until they can run blender i wont look at them. Such a powerful chip to be stunted by a mobile OS
They actually had a couple seconds of the new mobile zbrush running on it. Blender natively supports metal nowadays (thanks to apple), so making it work is on the blender team. Sounds like a lot of work, though.
I want to animate in Blender not sculpt though. Apple should have a toolset to easily get Metal mac apps running on ipadOS. Or you know, let us install MacOS on ipads since they use the exact same chips
While you could practically install macOS on ipads it’d work no better than windows used to work on tablets (it got a bit better nowadays). macOS is just not designed for touch input and would be a hideously subpar product. Can you imagine trying to use your fingers with the blender UI at 1x scale?
There is a toolset to easily get metal mac apps on iPad, though. I actually looked into what’d it take to port bender to iPad previously, and metal is the least of all problems. Blender is just a notoriously complicated piece of software.
Imagine if they had proper Vulkan support, it could run most games using Proton like they do on Linux. But they don’t want Steam to cannibalize their App Store sales so we’ll never see it happen.
New iPad Pro only works with the new Apple Pencil Pro. Which is the same price as the 2nd Gen.
So anyone with a current Pro and a 2nd gen pencil needs to upgrade both. That’s insane.
Now if that isn’t the shadiest Cook move I don’t know what is. What’s next? Do I need a special Remote Pro with the new Apple TV? Are we really doing “Pro only” accessories?? Is that where we are these days???
All 4 Apple pencils still being sold as of writing this. Yes even the first gen that’s nearly 10 years old. And despite 3 others available.
So much for tight Apple product lines.
I think the pencil is their biggest freaking joke and they are calling a phone “pro max” so it’s kinda saying a lot.
And, I think, the keyboard. So if you have a current iPad Pro and want the better quality keyboard and trackpad, you have to upgrade your otherwise still more than capable iPad.
It’s fucking diabolical.
They are truly lost
Yes, if you want to use a trackpad designed for specific tablets, you must buy one of these tablets. That’s outrageous!
Back when the premise was to make the pencil a standalone product. Now Cook wants to have 4 iPad lines and 4 pencils that only work with basically a single model. Just. How are people okay with this!
I won’t be purchasing this new iPad Pro (even though I really love my oled screens). It’s too stunned by its ipadOS.
“Pro” has always been a marketing strategy for them and I feel that Apple products haven’t been tight for a long time.
So the iPad line mostly mimics the iPhone line again except the regular iPad and mini are left, unupdated, to become the SE line. the mini was literally all i was interested in seeing updated. I haven’t read much, was the price cut at least? *no it was not
IIRC the rumor mill has the base iPad and iPad mini getting updated at the end of the year. Prob late October or early November if I was to venture a guess.
The regular iPad did get a price cut, didn’t it?
Looks like the FaceTime cameras are all finally landscape, not portrait.
Can someone explain to me what the benefit of this chip in an iPad is? Are people doing heavy workloads on iPads? Can the OS even utilize all the advantages?
Some image and video processing workflows can make use of them today, and today’s announced video software features seem to be a roadmap for how iPads could be used in more computationally intensive workflows: editing, re-encoding, and sharing video between devices or to specific apps.
Some AI inference tasks could theoretically make heavier use of the CPUs, too.
The benefit is that Apple are making the chips and want to use the chips in as many products as they can. It doesn’t matter that the software is nowhere near the hardware, the chips are bought and paid for, so they’ll use them.
Fair enough, thanks
Also to be able to run the large OLED displays.
Actually yeah, the OLED is probably the biggest selling point to me. So if the M4 was necessary for that (was it? I have a M2 MacBook that I run on my LGC3 OLED) then cool
Doesn’t matter, people see a bigger number and get out their wallets.
I have the iPad Pro with an M1 chip in it. And I never once thought… This needed more power, or this needed to be thinner.
I need a headphone jack, and I need better software support from third party devs (without the apple tax).
The only exciting news is the Pencil Pro, but even then it’s a niche use case. Plus them dropping the price of the existing iPad.
This could’ve been an email.
The new stunning, groundbreaking, and bespoke iPad Pro. They are nice enough but it is safe to say I was not stunned.
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Whats the new features? More emojis and hit and miss cloud features?
Edit: Nope, not even that, it’s just thinner and forces you to buy a newer peripheral. Can’t innovate anymore my ass.
everyone talking about the iPad and I’m just sad the pencil is still powered.
Give me a passive stylus like a wacom and I’ll buy any tablet.
