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      s/librebooted/canoebooted/

      it’s honestly quite strange. The Libreboot term has been known for years to refer to the fully free bios project. Then they merged osboot and Libreboot so now libreboot contains proprietary blobs. Then they decided to make a new project canoeboot, which is basically the new libreboot.

      so they went from having:

      • osboot
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      to having:

      • canoeboot
      • libreboot

      All they seemed to have done is confuse.

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    Man, I wish there were more people around me who cared about discussing Linux and open source software. Only one person I know actually understands it, but he’s still running windows for games and programming.

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      there was only space for 5 things ( *** Debloat Mindset *** )

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      I’m running NixOs as a daily driver for a while now. It’s the first time I want to actively convince people to try out a distro. But then I realise most people around me would not want to bother learning how to configure it.

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        Same. It’s very elegant. But yeah: the lacking documentation makes the learning curve way too steep for most people.

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    Every day this sub is in the active feed and I could not be more removed from the intended audience lol

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      This will continue until you’re part of the intended audience.

      spoiler

      Okay, it won’t stop even then.

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              Yeha, mistakes have been made but I guess those are understandable for the biggest distro. But that’s the past. We can always switch between distros when needed. Atm Ubuntu is fine.

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          Idk did you stan for 24.06 or are you still a reasonable person like “why that OS so big?”

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            I honestly just want to enjoy Linux. If I’m concerned about what happens in every update, I won’t enjoy it.

            So I leave the worrying to other people. If something really bad happens that I need to know about, I’ll probably hear about it on these communities.

            “Ubuntu did this crazy thing!!!”

            Google -> how to disable this crazy thing?

            disables the crazy thing

            So far I haven’t been hacked (almost 7 years using it) or murdered by the phantom of the bloat. Everything works fine. The only issues I’ve had are Nvidia related. Fuck Nvidia.

            Ubuntu literally delivers the promise of a user friendly experience, which is what I want. I don’t want to obsess about the libraries or Init system my distro uses. I just want it to work. I’ll let other amazing minds to worry about the philosophy and technical aspects while I just cruise.

            I know I can relax thanks to other people who really worry and want everything to be perfect. I’m really grateful with them, I just don’t want to be them.

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              My concern when I see bloat is “what are you hiding?”

              And to me it represents the possibility that Ubuntu with Firefox is trying to make a marketable OS, which is just Windows with extra steps.

              But overall I hear you. I daily drive Ubuntu 22.04, Ubuntu Server 22.04, Debian 12.5 and Windows 11 (sigh)

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                That’s exactly what Canonical is trying to do. They are trying to create a system with all the batteries included so people don’t need to worry about installing extra stuff, which means that of course they’ll have a bunch of bloat if you don’t use everything they offer, which is probably the case.

                Their end goal is to be able to push this to the masses and maybe one day be able to get compensation for their effort.

                I wouldn’t mind if Ubuntu becomes a Microsoft Windows-like product. If that’s what it takes to steal people from the claws of Microsoft, I’m OK with that. That would mean that hardware manufacturers will start developing specialized drivers for their hardware in Linux. To this day, in freaking 2024, I need to have a Windows image in order to configure my headset and mouse because developing the interfaces for Linux is pointless for these companies.

                We still have like 50 other distros we can use. Let Ubuntu be that bridge to bring more users to Linux.

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                  I know it. Anyone who was alive in the 90s knows it.

                  But I usually get downvotes to hell because Firefox is the current best popular browser so fanboys gonna stan.

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    Wait, there’s someone here aware of hardened gentoo? Well I’ll be damned! Come out of the shadows, fellas!

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        Excuse me, sir, it’s the Gentoo bits that are supposed to be hard, not yours.

        On an unrelated note - I’m building a binhost. Currently stuck on trying to figure out a way of building packages without instaling them and not using quickpkg>

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    Ah, yes, ANOTHER post trying to make Linux seem impenetrable and elitist with an attack on Ubuntu - I swear you guys must work for Microsoft.

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      Ah, yes, another user offended by a joke posted to a community with memes.

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          Stalks my post history to find out I use Ubuntu for my daily driver. Didn’t mention I’ve been using Linux since before the twin towers fell and am a long term open source dev and contributor…

          Almost like you purposely chose to be deceptive or something. I know it wasn’t a choice though, this kind of immorality comes naturally to you and maybe you’re not even aware of it. You should try and work on it though, you’ll be amazed how much better a life of radical self awareness is.

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              That’s also one of my goals. I started recently with contributing to open street maps to complete the entries for my local village.

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              After having to use Ubuntu at work for > 1 year, I find it hard to endure. But of course, maybe it was just the computers being slow, except for Debian KDE working perfectly well on them.

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              You should, a great place to start is helping write documentation. A lot of big projects have groups that work on creating user guides and api info, some programming experience is normally required but not as much as when contributing code so it’s a great way of building understanding and confidence.

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        Isn’t it embarrassing using the same excuses as every 4chan racist and misogynist?

        You’re affecting how people perceive Linux and doing so in a negative way, I’m not going to try and stop you or anything but I am going to say I think you’re a bad person working against all the efforts and hard work of people trying to make a better world.

        How you feel about it is upto you.

        Oh and of course this was just a joke so you have to laugh and agree, right?

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          This is not a joke. If you don’t wake up at 4 am to start harassing windows users, you will never become a GNU/Linux Trillionaire.

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          I simply envy you because you live in some world where this is the problem worth discussing and getting angry. Or your head is full of shit. It’s probably the latter, given that you put people joking about Arch Linux to the same category as racists and misogynists. In this case, I don’t envy, but pity you.

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            I clearly didn’t put them in the same category, I said they use the same defensive arguing tactic to justify their toxic bahviour.

            And no its not THE problem, I’m able to post a comment on a thread without it totally consuming my life.

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      Ubuntu sucks. Not because it’s for newbies, it’s because better, new user friendlier options like mint exist.

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          They’re owned by a for-profit company, they collect data on you by default, they’ve already had privacy issues in the past, and they include non-free software by default. I would rather have a beginner start off with Debian or Trisquel. We shouldn’t be trapping people into these distros because then they’ll potentially get too comfortable and not make the switch. This is coming from someone who did start off on Ubuntu. Sure, it’s more convenient, but we should be teaching people to value freedom over convenience. Even if the data collection is minimal, it’s still data.

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      What the fuck even is this meme lmao?

      Me and OP can compare paychecks, I’ve never used Linux in my life.

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        Paychecks? I am a self-made billionaire, all thanks to the Free Software Grindset

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        OP and I*

        I’ve never used Linux in my life

        Acktually, it’s GNU/Linux, Linux is just the kernel :)