Oh my sweet summer child. Sidewalk parking is more or less legal in Germany since cars are generally placed above people. It’s literally happening everywhere. My entire street is full of people being 1/3 on the sidewalk.
No it’s not. You can’t park your car on the sidewalk unless explicitly allowed by a sign. If you park on the sidewalk you have to pay a fine, if your car is blocking something you also get a Punkt in Flensburg.
Dude, literally every damn city residential area is like this. No one cares, especially not the Ordnungsamt who should be responsible for it, or politicians. Worst case, they just add some white paint and whoop it is legal, because fuck pedestrians.
I don’t even know why you try to argue otherwise when it’s literally my reality that I have to constantly squeeze myself through between cars and walls because the sidewalk is not even wide enough for two people anymore with all the cars parking on it. Like literally every single time, for decades. And the fatter the cars get each year, the worse it gets too. Even firefighters already complained about this because they often can’t even drive through some streets since even the car lane itself is too narrow thanks to the cars, even if they park right against the house walls.
But hey, here’s Knuschberkeks telling me that I am apparently hallucinating.
Calm down. I didn’t say it’s not what’s happening. Yes it is happening, especially in bigger citys. Yes it is incredibly annoying. But that doesn’t mean it’s legal. Have you tried to do anything about it?
I said it is “more or less legal”, meaning it is defacto legal because no one actually enforces it and rather makes it legal if they had to enforce it.
I don’t report, because it’s not anonymous. And other people who kept reporting like crazy ended up getting charged for it by the police, so I’d rather not do that. Plus it is typically the case that reports aren’t getting followed up upon. Not that it would even make sense to literally report every single car all the way down the entire street anyway. I’ve seen Ordnungsamt people walk through it, so they very clearly know. Not that it is some secret anyway since again, it’s absolutely everywhere. It’s the norm. So if they wanted to enforce it, then they could just do it.
I admit I don’t know a lot about this type of stuff, but there must be some (probably super involved) way to get this enforced. I mean it is written in law so there must be some way to fight it, but you’d probably have to sue the Ordnungsamt or the city some shit like that.
Cars have such a high priority in people’s lives that this wouldn’t help much because a court would generally rule in favor of the cars, since a lot of people are basically dependent on them, which somehow justifies having your car park in front of your house. Otherwise we’d have the consequence of having to create dedicated parking spaces everywhere in form of parking garages / houses, which would be away from where people live since the space for that is typically not existent.
But hey, you’re welcome to try to create some sort of precedence in court. Maybe you can afford some very good lawyer who could pull this through and convince the judge.
Oh my sweet summer child. Sidewalk parking is more or less legal in Germany since cars are generally placed above people. It’s literally happening everywhere. My entire street is full of people being 1/3 on the sidewalk.
No it’s not. You can’t park your car on the sidewalk unless explicitly allowed by a sign. If you park on the sidewalk you have to pay a fine, if your car is blocking something you also get a Punkt in Flensburg.
Dude, literally every damn city residential area is like this. No one cares, especially not the Ordnungsamt who should be responsible for it, or politicians. Worst case, they just add some white paint and whoop it is legal, because fuck pedestrians. I don’t even know why you try to argue otherwise when it’s literally my reality that I have to constantly squeeze myself through between cars and walls because the sidewalk is not even wide enough for two people anymore with all the cars parking on it. Like literally every single time, for decades. And the fatter the cars get each year, the worse it gets too. Even firefighters already complained about this because they often can’t even drive through some streets since even the car lane itself is too narrow thanks to the cars, even if they park right against the house walls. But hey, here’s Knuschberkeks telling me that I am apparently hallucinating.
Calm down. I didn’t say it’s not what’s happening. Yes it is happening, especially in bigger citys. Yes it is incredibly annoying. But that doesn’t mean it’s legal. Have you tried to do anything about it?
I said it is “more or less legal”, meaning it is defacto legal because no one actually enforces it and rather makes it legal if they had to enforce it.
what happens if you report them?
I don’t report, because it’s not anonymous. And other people who kept reporting like crazy ended up getting charged for it by the police, so I’d rather not do that. Plus it is typically the case that reports aren’t getting followed up upon. Not that it would even make sense to literally report every single car all the way down the entire street anyway. I’ve seen Ordnungsamt people walk through it, so they very clearly know. Not that it is some secret anyway since again, it’s absolutely everywhere. It’s the norm. So if they wanted to enforce it, then they could just do it.
I admit I don’t know a lot about this type of stuff, but there must be some (probably super involved) way to get this enforced. I mean it is written in law so there must be some way to fight it, but you’d probably have to sue the Ordnungsamt or the city some shit like that.
Cars have such a high priority in people’s lives that this wouldn’t help much because a court would generally rule in favor of the cars, since a lot of people are basically dependent on them, which somehow justifies having your car park in front of your house. Otherwise we’d have the consequence of having to create dedicated parking spaces everywhere in form of parking garages / houses, which would be away from where people live since the space for that is typically not existent. But hey, you’re welcome to try to create some sort of precedence in court. Maybe you can afford some very good lawyer who could pull this through and convince the judge.