• return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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        It’s 100% the candidates fault if they lose. Dems think Biden is the best they got to go against Trump. “Democracy is on the line!” Yet they can’t even do the bare minimum to earn votes so just yell “but Trump” and voter shame.

        This is from the Bernie campaign and still rings true today. Want my vote, earn my vote. https://youtu.be/TNrUyd6zlDQ

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          You don’t have my favorite flavor of ice cream so I will eat cow shit until you bring it!

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      So the wolf wins instead of the wolf in sheep’s clothing.

      At least the GOP is open with their stance. Unlike the snake in the grass that is the Democratic party.

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          One side is absolutely worse. But that doesn’t make the other side automatically good.

          Why is the American way to never demand better of our elected officials?

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            Well every 4-8 years we get these people who say I’m not voting because one issue and then Republicans take over and just absolutely fuck everything up and then people who didn’t vote go oh wow that was bad I’m gonna vote and then we get another centrist Democrat and those same people pick a issue and say I’m not gonna vote, rinse repeat, if you want more progressive candidates the democrats have to keep power for more than 8 years, change is slow and throwing a tantrum and yelling I’m not gonna vote does nothing but maintain the status quo the non voters complain about. Also the reason we get a lot of centrist Democrats is because before the largest voting bloc was boomers which are more conservative so biden appeals to them as they age out the choices will get better but if we lose democracy before then well it will be just one more thing boomers stole from everyone else.

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            This entire thread is about being an idiot by not voting so that “absolutely worse” wins.

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        If gore won we wouldn’t have had the Iraq war. If Hilary had won we’d still have Roe v Wade.

        Both those elections people said both sides were the same, but the material results are clearly different.

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                You are simply wrong about the facts.

                Joe Lieberman was not dropped. He lost his primary to an antiwar democrat.

                Maybe this should be a sign that you should contribute less to conversations and listen more? The rest of us keep having to stop and explain things to you and that is starting to get frustrating. This probably applies to you in real life as well, so keep that in mind the next time you’re talking and see people roll their eyes

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                  The rest of us keep having to stop and explain things to you and that is starting to get frustrating.

                  Lol you’re the only one who keeps responding. May wanna get checked out for multiple personalities there.

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    These people are just so short sighted. Refusal to “choose” is still a choice, and the consequence for that are just as real as everything they’re so upset over.

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    easy to not vote with “fuck you money”, if your own inaction fucks up, you can just leave

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      She will leave her fans behind to toil in slavery in the fields as she parties in Europe. I only hope the wealthy - who try to leave America to escape the carnage they helped create - are recognized and given a proper welcome with sunflower seeds stuffed in their pockets

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    It’s time to vote for a repaired system.

    • Congressional Term Limits
    • Supreme Court Term Limits
    • Allow the people to vote on the Supreme Court
    • Do away with the two-party system
    • Stop voting for Old (too old) Wealthy (too wealthy) candidates, the 1% percent does not represent the masses.

    There is currently no politician who is out to help the people over themselves.

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    She maintained, that despite her stance, she is not encouraging people not to vote. “I’m not encouraging anybody to not vote. You do what you want to do, but I’m telling you what I’m doing and that’s it,” she said. "But the more you know, and the more passionate you become, the more you see that our leaders are evil. "She said that people have told her that she needs to “pick the lesser evil” when it’s time to vote this year, but she considers both of them “evil.”

    “I’m all for protecting America and for the better of America, but this war is not doing nothing for America and it hurts me,” she said. “Children are dying… I hate that, that disgusts me no matter what religion, no matter what language we speak. We all have one thing in common. We love our children, we love our parents, we love our family.”

    https://www.complex.com/music/a/backwoodsaltar/cardi-b-talks-about-refusing-to-vote-for-biden-trump

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      10 whole presumably adult folks have (at this comment’s time) downvoted a linked quote related to the post and walked away unashamed of themselves. Fuggen lol.

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      If she thinks Trump would lead to any less dead children she will be disappointed. Vote for Biden or get Trump that’s about it.

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      And when trump is elected I’m sure they won’t do everything in their power to arm Israel to the teeth with horrific weapons to use on those kids /s

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          Yeah totally. And everyone will feel super satisfied for really sticking it to Biden for not providing enough Palestinian aid or pushing Israel hard enough in their opinion, while only holding back some weapons from Israel, and not doing a pointless veto of congressionally allocated funding that would be immediately over ridden by congress. And then when Trump is elected later this year… Let’s see here…

          Oh yeah, withdrawing all aid from Palestine (like he did before), helping Israel to “finish the job” in the Gaza strip, and then strike some corrupt deals with Netanyahu and his son in law to divide up all this sweet recently vacated beach front property. And yes, this is the same son in law he put in charge of Israel Palestine peace “negotiations” during his term.

          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/6/trumps-talk-on-gaza-highlights-stark-choice-for-voters-in-us-election

          https://apnews.com/article/jared-kushner-trump-israel-waterfront-property-901895eeafee867e69d0c4582a4deb47

          By all means vote for the most progressive politicians you can. But you have to grapple with the current reality of a first past the post voting system, and not voting at all is even more stupid.

          I hate all this accelerationist nonsense. Let’s sit out this election and have an authoritarian facist takeover! Surely this will help push the country to the left like we want.