I upvoted, but I wanted to add a few thoughts. See, I understand what you’re saying in that US history has been littered with acts ranging from questionable to horrible the entire time. However as a Canadian some of my most treasured people, both personal acquaintances and public figures, are/were American. Even though I criticize policies US policies (a lot more recently), I still feel a kinship to Americans and I like a lot of you.
I think America has an accountability problem where a very few people in power are allowed to COMPLETELY misrepresent the positions of their constituents and make national/state decisions that outrage huge portions of the population (often for money’s sake). In the 20-odd years I’ve been an adult I’ve noticed this about the Iraq war, the 2008 financial crisis + wealth inequality in general, climate, health care, and now of course the situation in Gaza. There’s almost no meaningful consequences applied when leaders act against the wishes of the populace or even your own laws. At worst some are not elected again and have to live on whatever millions they could amass during their years in power. Some say Americans get the government they deserve, but checks and balances don’t work if the few people empowered to check and balance are on the same corrupt/unethical page.
So I’m equally suspicious of anyone who thinks that America has, as a nation, been the greatest country in the world the entire time. I would simultaneously argue though that the US is home to some of the greatest people and that a large % of the population is at least as “good” as most other countries. Of course there are genuine shitheads in America, but that’s universal to every nation IMO. The real problem in my eyes is that your leaders have not been forced to actually put the “representation” in representative democracy. If you read all that, thanks for giving me your time.
The dirty little secret of US History: America has had moments of greatness, but America has never been great. You can’t pick a single era of America’s past and not find some group being oppressed or some inequality being perpetrated by the wealthy.
Can you with any significant population? I think that’s more human nature than American Exceptional(-ly bad)ism. In fact, if you look back though history of people assigned the moniker “The Great”, the vast majority of them were right bastards.
Greatness is unfortunately often paired with awfulness.
I upvoted, but I wanted to add a few thoughts. See, I understand what you’re saying in that US history has been littered with acts ranging from questionable to horrible the entire time. However as a Canadian some of my most treasured people, both personal acquaintances and public figures, are/were American. Even though I criticize policies US policies (a lot more recently), I still feel a kinship to Americans and I like a lot of you.
I think America has an accountability problem where a very few people in power are allowed to COMPLETELY misrepresent the positions of their constituents and make national/state decisions that outrage huge portions of the population (often for money’s sake). In the 20-odd years I’ve been an adult I’ve noticed this about the Iraq war, the 2008 financial crisis + wealth inequality in general, climate, health care, and now of course the situation in Gaza. There’s almost no meaningful consequences applied when leaders act against the wishes of the populace or even your own laws. At worst some are not elected again and have to live on whatever millions they could amass during their years in power. Some say Americans get the government they deserve, but checks and balances don’t work if the few people empowered to check and balance are on the same corrupt/unethical page.
So I’m equally suspicious of anyone who thinks that America has, as a nation, been the greatest country in the world the entire time. I would simultaneously argue though that the US is home to some of the greatest people and that a large % of the population is at least as “good” as most other countries. Of course there are genuine shitheads in America, but that’s universal to every nation IMO. The real problem in my eyes is that your leaders have not been forced to actually put the “representation” in representative democracy. If you read all that, thanks for giving me your time.
The dirty little secret of US History: America has had moments of greatness, but America has never been great. You can’t pick a single era of America’s past and not find some group being oppressed or some inequality being perpetrated by the wealthy.
Can you with any significant population? I think that’s more human nature than American Exceptional(-ly bad)ism. In fact, if you look back though history of people assigned the moniker “The Great”, the vast majority of them were right bastards.
Greatness is unfortunately often paired with awfulness.