• adam_y@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The European tally line diagonal from top left to bottom right feels wrong.

    I usually see it the other way.

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      7 months ago

      We’re special. 😂 I guess because we are a lot similar to other South American countries, but also very different. For instance, we don’t even speak Spanish.

    • xanu@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure the final one is the symbol for “five” and it takes 5 strokes to draw. it’d be like drawing a 5 one segment at a time in an eight segment number display as the tally marks.

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        7 months ago

        You are wrong. This is the character for “correct”. “Five” is similar. Both have five strokes.

        五 = five

        正 = correct, positive

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            7 months ago

            Oh, you are right. It’s been a couple of decades since I actually had to write Japanese by hand.

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          7 months ago

          So then why aren’t they using ‘五’ to make the tally marks?

          Trends are weird.

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            7 months ago

            Because it actually has four strokes. The “L” in the middle is one stroke

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        7 months ago

        I still don’t like it. It’s not a logical placement of strokes. No I don’t care that the Kanji ultimately means ‘5’.

        I don’t like it. It’s aesthetically displeasing with no logic.

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          It’s only aesthetically displeasing to you because you come from a western background. For someone used to say mandarin it is quite aesthetically pleasing. The final bottom stroke “closes” the set in a satisfying way that is consistent Chinese character stroke order.

          Some things are culturally relative. Aesthetics is one of those things.

          • DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 months ago

            I use n. American one but find the France/Brazil one makes Sense. The Asian looks aesthetically displaying but not for the train you stated.

            • mholiv@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              The world is a wonderful and diverse place. Looking at your comment history I see some slurs that, to me at least, hint that you are a younger person.

              My main advice to have empathy, be accepting and realize that many people live their own lives most of which are very different than yours.

              People can learn, change, and live unique and meaningful lives. :)

              • jobby@lemmy.today
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                7 months ago

                Oh I’m just spouting off occasionally with hyperbole, rants and un-serious trolling.

                Don’t sweat it.

                • mholiv@lemmy.world
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                  7 months ago

                  I’m glad. :) And worry not. I do try to make the world a better place where I can, but I understand that I can’t get too invested in every attempt. In this case no sweat was involved. Just empathy.

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          No logic…unless you use the language it’s written in. You’re only looking at it from your perspective and saying it’s ugly and makes no sense. Because the language, to you makes no sense because you haven’t learned it.

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                7 months ago

                Funny how people get so butthurt and rage-filled when it comes to aesthetic opinions.

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                  7 months ago

                  Are you…referring to yourself? Because that’s not a trend anyone has noticed—but you tend to be exhibiting an outlandish reaction to something you find aesthetically displeasing.

        • pantyhosewimp@lemmynsfw.com
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          7 months ago

          There has to be inconsistent things like in all languages to give comedians material. Just like English-speaking comedians can make jokes about driving on a parkway and parking in a driveway. Chinese comedians have surely made jokes about tally mark 5 vs the symbol for 5.

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      7 months ago

      It’s the character for ‘correct’, which doesn’t really explain much. Best I can figure it’s just that it’s a common character with five strokes in a satisfying right-down-right-down-right order.

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      7 months ago

      It’s simply a 5 stroke character with orthogonal lines: 正

      The reason why it’s separate is just that this is the traditional drawing order to write that character.

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      7 months ago

      Oh? I can confirm it’s true for North America and China, at least.

      Is it the middle one that gets debunked?

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        7 months ago

        I do a modified version of the middle one, common for people like naturalists apparently, which does four dots to form the vertices of a grid, 1-4, four lines to successively complete a square, 5-8, two lines forming an x in the middle of the square, 9-10.

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    7 months ago

    I do the middle one but start with 4 dots, then connect those dots with lines, then do 2 lines crossing in the middle. it gives you 10 in a small space. So in the pictures there it would be 3, 5, 7, 8, 9.

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    7 months ago

    I just feel like the figure on the right should have each unit be the same length. Why should four be denoted with a shorter length?

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        7 months ago

        True. I was going to give benefit of the doubt and assume that the creator was counting half of one of the segments, of which it overlaps, as part of that unit. Someone mentioned that the diagram is not actually the correct representation of the number five, anyway. Someone in this comment section said that it means, “correct”. They stated that an entirely different figure (not displayed in this post) actually represents 5.