Do people actually like all of the overdesigned clutter to the point where it makes them not want to switch sites?

To me, the stripped down clarity on Lemmy is a feature. I remember back in the day when people flocked to Facebook from MySpace, in large part because they were sick of eye gouging customized pages and just wanted a simple, consistent interface. The content, not the buttons to click on it are the draw right?

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      Yeah, for real. “But there’s no fun awards and bubbly icons and bright colors.”

      Well then, go back to kindergarten.

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      Same, was using old.Reddit before and plan on figuring out how to use the tools I saw to redo lemmy to page layout on no stupid questions.

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    I think Lemmy could use some more ads. I feel like I don’t have enough material things, and I don’t know what to buy. /s

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    The reason I used Reddit is Fun WAS because of its stripped down, bare bones style. I only wanted to read thoughts and opinions, and choose to view images/video/ads when I wanted to. This is absolutely a feature of Jerboa (and Lemmy) for me

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      I don’t know the background of OP so this is just an opinion: I feel that modern UX have become so ubiquitous and streamlined for content consumption that users who aren’t used to old-styled UIs see the lack of “sleek” design as lesser. It works doubly so that users aren’t willing to venture outside of their ecosystems and will put up with anything regardless if it’s detrimental to their experience.

      Compare users of new reddit and the official app vs. users of old reddit and 3PA. I used 3PA because there wasn’t an official app and RiF matched what I was used to. It’s a similar phenomena to Apple users vs Windows/Android. People are just used to a streamlined sleek experience (which to be fair has it’s merits) but to say it’s superior or that the alternative is lesser is a large misstep in thinking.

      It takes effort to go out of your comfort zone but it’s saddening to see users mindlessly, for lack of a better terms, consume

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    “The hosts are too lazy” says the person whining about it without doing anything.

    Try switching to a platform you’ve never used before and making a community out of nothing, or host the Lemmy instance and be forced to deal with thousands of new users daily. Lazy my ass…

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    I think the more they bitch about Reddit alternatives, the more people will be reminded that there are alternatives to Reddit.

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    It feels familiar to old.reddit so i like it. Squabbles has an interesting approach to displaying posts + comments tho

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      I tried Squabbles and got so confused. Took me forever to realize that the post was on the left column and the replies were on the right column. I stupidly thought Squabbles was combining Twitter and Reddit and thought the two columns were completely independent from one another. It makes sense to me now, but my simple brain likes this layout.

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    It’s about personal preference. It’s important to have a user interface that’s modular and comfortable for the end user and manageable for the devs. Options are always the answer, the ability to enable or disable certain aspect or details is what drives me towards one app or the other. (This is coming from someone who used Infinity for Reddit for the past 4 years.)

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      It just seems incredibly nitpicky to call alternatives lazy for not having all of the modularity of a decade+ old platform.

      ”Reddit is imploding, and the CEO is being terrible to users, and the native app is super intrusive and inefficient but ugh the alternatives have square buttons.”

      Just really weird that the lack of visual bells and whistles is something to even talk about at the moment. Just a little lower in the thread, the same person complained about lack of gilding. Just, really weird complaints.

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        I hear you. I agree that it’s silly to complain about that stuff right now, to the person who isn’t satisfied, instead why not post a feature request on the github and continue browsing reddit for now?

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        I’m happy to have people like that stay on reddit. They can stagnate along with the dying platform and their stupid round buttons.

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          Yeah. Theyre like people trying to convince you stay on the sinking ship. Wouldn’t be surprised if its an actual reddit employee talking that shit.

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    I’m not really sure, I think some of them might which is weird. Though I think a lot of them are just trying to find reasons to complain about Lemmy because they are addicted to reddit, don’t want to make the switch and they know that if people start leaving Reddit they’re going to have to switch to something else and that scares the shit out of them. So they’re going to complain about Lemmy or the alternatives because they desperately don’t want to lose Reddit, their source of dopamine and fulfillment.

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      Though I think a lot of them are just trying to find reasons to complain about Lemmy because they are addicted to reddit, don’t want to make the switch and they know that if people start leaving Reddit they’re going to have to switch to something else and that scares the shit out of them.

      It sometimes amazes me how opposed to change people can sometimes be. Yeah sure Lemmy is different, but not radically so.

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    I prefer clean interfaces and thus far haven’t been disappointed. Just gimme a dark theme option and I’m (mostly) happy.

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    If you don’t like the UI, you can always download a browser extension that change the CSS of the website. However, if this is the main criticism people do to Lemmy, I would say that’s not bad for a relatively new platform

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      I’m just glad it defaults to dark mode. Any site that defaults to light mode can go straight to hell.

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        It doesn’t default to dark mode, it defaults to the system setting. It’s light on my device.

        Which any self respecting site should be doing either way, it’s not difficult to implement, at all.

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    Someone didn’t grow up during the days of forums.

    But as a designer, I understand where they’re coming from. Especially if they were using the new reddit design on the web and Apollo on mobile. At the very least though, I think Lemmy’s default UI looks much better than old.reddit (and I say that as someone who still uses old.reddit).

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    Simple and clean UIs are an improvement over what’s now considered “modern web design” meant to manipulate your attention to particular things. It feels like the agency is taken away from the user. I am loving the fediverse for this reason and have been a fan and user of FOSS apps for over a decade because the design goals of the software match the actual use-case of the app without trying to tie you in to something else. No distractions, no advertisements, no walled gardens. Just, here’s the app, here’s the functionality, it’s been delivered. Now use it as you see fit without an ulterior motive from the developer or their investors (or lack thereof.)

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    Web design is important. It’s part of grievances against reddit with the app and old reddit. It took me awhile to accept new Reddit design.

    With Lemmy my biggest issues:

    Often slow to respond and sometimes return undeclared error (just html value,.etc). Likely due to traffic coping.

    A bit harder to navigate, I’m not sure yet how to go to kbin and join. When I search I get meta.

    Though this place is very promising attempt compared to past ones.

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    One thing I do dislike, the post width on desktop is limited. Between the sidebar always being shown and the container being 1140 px wide, the comment section ends up only being 760 px wide; way too narrow for me.

    I wrote a Stylus script for Firefox to make the posts full-width.

    URL starts with: https://lemmy.world/post URL starts with: https://lemmy.world/comment

    Script:

    .container, .container-lg, .container-md, .container-sm, .container-xl {
    	max-width: 100%;
    }
    
    .col-md-8 {
    	flex: 0 0 80%;
    	max-width: 80%;
    }
    
    .col-md-4 {
    	flex: 0 0 20%;
    	max-width: 20%;
    }