I concur. I offset my gas consumption by using public transportation as often as I can. I reserve car usage for places that take more than 20% to get there via public transportation.
So if I go to a place and it takes 5 hours to get there by car, then 6 hours by public transportation is acceptable.
I am curious if you are rural enough to be that far from any EV charging station, why wouldn’t home charging be an option? Every rural person I know can do whatever the hell they want, and slapping a 60A circuit into their primary breaker box and running one meter of cable to an EVSE is easier for them than most city dwellers, that have parking restrictions or rental restrictions or HOA restrictions that drive them to either be unable or for it to require a much longer run.
Yes I am in the rural area and not in USA. My English is not good enough to explain in detail but I’ll try.
My house’s electrical system is almost 50 years old. About 10 year ago, I have to “upgrade” the fuse box just so it can handle one single induction stove of 2500W (the fuse would blown immediately when it’s turned on).
Even a home charging kit of 7,5KWh is out of the question, let alone the more common one of 11KWh (in my country).
A 3KWh AC charger is theoretically possible, however it would take >20 hours to charge a typical 50KWh EV.
I will say that while I wasn’t happy, I did do 1.5kw charging and it overall kept up with my needs in the end for daily driving, but after a long road trip I was out of commission for way too long so I did upgrade.
If you could get 3kw, then that’s about 14 kilometers an hour of charge, which you’d have to compare with your average and your peak.
But yeah, if I had electrical wiring predating 200A standard, I’d probably be reluctant with EVSE in a rural area particularly. 1.5KW worked for me primarily for being moderately urban so I didn’t have to drive far constantly.
I think you meant that its not impossible, just requires a possibly expensive panel upgrade. One thing that is done in the US in this situation is to install a 2nd service for the EV charger.
I don’t know how electrical grid work here, but I assume I can’t use more than 3300W at any given time (we use 220V and the fuse box said 15A, or is it 20A? I’ll have to double check). So if I were to charge an EV, I have to turn off everything else in the house? I can’t live without the Air conditioner. It’s a 800W unit that can do both cooling and heating.
There’s no way you can get 7-8L/100Km on a pickup in the city. Are you living in the countryside so there’s no traffic?
A Piaggio Ape with a 50cc engine and two seats manages 3-4L/100Km (>70mpg) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have a 30km commute of mostly 50-70km/h roads.
edit: 7.8L/100km on the last fill
Yeah even in my sedan I get 7.8 and that’s with a lot of long distance travel
I would love to have an EV but there’s 0 charging station in a 15Km radius from my house, and way too much gas station. FML.
Home charging is not an option.
I concur. I offset my gas consumption by using public transportation as often as I can. I reserve car usage for places that take more than 20% to get there via public transportation.
So if I go to a place and it takes 5 hours to get there by car, then 6 hours by public transportation is acceptable.
So the more remote a place is, I tend to drive.
There were some experiments with chargers in lampposts in UK. These would probably solve a lot of issues for people who can’t charge on site.
Also here some people were allowed run an underground cable to a post on side of the road for charging. But unfortunately that’s not normal.
I am curious if you are rural enough to be that far from any EV charging station, why wouldn’t home charging be an option? Every rural person I know can do whatever the hell they want, and slapping a 60A circuit into their primary breaker box and running one meter of cable to an EVSE is easier for them than most city dwellers, that have parking restrictions or rental restrictions or HOA restrictions that drive them to either be unable or for it to require a much longer run.
Yes I am in the rural area and not in USA. My English is not good enough to explain in detail but I’ll try.
My house’s electrical system is almost 50 years old. About 10 year ago, I have to “upgrade” the fuse box just so it can handle one single induction stove of 2500W (the fuse would blown immediately when it’s turned on).
Even a home charging kit of 7,5KWh is out of the question, let alone the more common one of 11KWh (in my country).
A 3KWh AC charger is theoretically possible, however it would take >20 hours to charge a typical 50KWh EV.
Ah, ok, makes sense.
I will say that while I wasn’t happy, I did do 1.5kw charging and it overall kept up with my needs in the end for daily driving, but after a long road trip I was out of commission for way too long so I did upgrade.
If you could get 3kw, then that’s about 14 kilometers an hour of charge, which you’d have to compare with your average and your peak.
But yeah, if I had electrical wiring predating 200A standard, I’d probably be reluctant with EVSE in a rural area particularly. 1.5KW worked for me primarily for being moderately urban so I didn’t have to drive far constantly.
I think you meant that its not impossible, just requires a possibly expensive panel upgrade. One thing that is done in the US in this situation is to install a 2nd service for the EV charger.
I charge my ev on 240V 15A, so 3600W. It easily charges to 80% overnight
I don’t know how electrical grid work here, but I assume I can’t use more than 3300W at any given time (we use 220V and the fuse box said 15A, or is it 20A? I’ll have to double check). So if I were to charge an EV, I have to turn off everything else in the house? I can’t live without the Air conditioner. It’s a 800W unit that can do both cooling and heating.
I think we get 50 or 100A services here in Australia, so devoting 15A to charging after cooking dinner is fine
You have a fairly large engine then right? A VW Polo V with 75hp does 5.5l/100km mixed