• intensely_human@lemm.ee
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        I take my consent from the dog. You’re its caretaker, friend, and family. None of that means the dog’s incompetent to decide and communicate desire to be touched.

        edit: I should be more clear. I ask for permission from the owner. I say “Can I say hi to your dog?”

        Then I say hi by putting my hand out to smell. Then if the dog wants a pet, I’ll pet the dog.

        Permission to approach from the owner, but consent to pet from the dog.

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          I should be more clear. I ask for permission from the owner.

          Much needed clarification hahah.

          I’m with you 100%

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      And while not explicitly stated in those exact terms, that’s probably EXACTLY what this sign is for. But they probably cover their legal bases if they say sll dogs, in case a non-service dog bites them. Then the airport has a sign “What did we JUST say???”

      I work at a different airport, and while I can’t say I’ve ever seen a dog attack someone, I CAN say I’ve seen people get so drunk that they take off all their clothes at the bar. Then get arrested for “singing kareoke onstage”. Except there’s a few key pieces of information. First off, they had no stage. She was just naked singing while standing on top of the bar. Like it was coyote ugly. Also, the bar didn’t have a kareoke machine, it had a keno display. And there wasn’t even any music playing. She just got up on the bar naked and starts a drunk rendition of “allstar” followed by most of “walking on the sun” by smash mouth before the cops showed up and arrested her. Bonus points to the cops for letting her get off the bartop on her own. She used a bar chair to get down, and the top of the chair swivels. So she fucks it up, the chair swivels, and she eats the ground HARD. Like…pretty sure she had a concussion after that. She was definately bleeding from the back of her head. As someone who has a lot of downtime, and just people watches, that was definately my favorite day for people watching.

      Entertaining story aside, my point is…people are dumbasses. She never got to the point to even try to board the plane, but I assure you, she would have been denied. And she’s not alone. Most people keep their clothes on, but a LOT of people (looking at you, spirit, and frontier passengers) drink WAAAAAAAY too much.

      So I could fully see a situation where a drunk guy insists on petting a dog that doesn’t want to be touched by a drunk guy. I could then understand why a dog would then bite him. And now we understand this sign.

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        It’s probably for bomb sniffing dogs, I’ve seen those at JFK and LAX along with those signs in the past. Like right near the cordoned off walkway they have set up for them to walk near everyone in line.

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          Logan (Boston) too. I watched an abandoned shopping bag get sniffed down before they took it away.

          It’s amazing the difference between how bomb dogs move and sniff compared to drug dogs (which are 99% bullshit being triggered by handlers I suspect).

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            Clever Hans (German: der Kluge Hans; c. 1895 – c. 1916) was a horse that was claimed to have performed arithmetic and other intellectual tasks. After a formal investigation in 1907, psychologist Oskar Pfungst demonstrated that the horse was not actually performing these mental tasks, but was watching the reactions of his trainer. He discovered this artifact in the research methodology, wherein the horse was responding directly to involuntary cues in the body language of the human trainer, who was entirely unaware that he was providing such cues.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clever_Hans

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        AFAIK they don’t use those in airports, at least not in the domestic flight area. I could see it being used at customs or something, although I think even in customs they usually have dogs sniffing for agricultural concerns like plants and seeds rather than drugs. The dogs you see near security theater checkpoints screening areas are all bomb sniffing dogs AFAIK.

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          Yeah they don’t need drug dogs in airports. If they don’t like the look of you they can just search your bags without the made up cause of a drug dog “trigger”.

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    Don’t pet dogs that are on duty, you’re either gonna distract them from their jobs and dat makadem sad, or they’re trained as serious doggo security and you’ll be risking getting chomped

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      That’s not what the sign says. If you have to add that much information on your own the sign is useless.

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        Well when there’s intentionally dense people like yourself, sure…

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          Signs are supposed to work for dense people or it’s a bad sign. I know the things you said and you know the things you said but the sign is for people that don’t know those things and for them it’s a shit sign.

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            I mean it gets the point across, regardless of the service dog or a pet(which shouldn’t be in the TSA security line in the first place cuz generally airports will have a designated drop off or require Kennels) , in this case it doesn’t matter how dense you are, it’s clear: do not pet the dogs, if the reader wants to say that it means no petting dogs on the entire trip, the airport doesn’t care as long as you’re not petting the dogs at the airport, and therefor not getting in the way of procedure or causing a potential safety issue for the port

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    Obviously don’t pet service dogs. Just to be clear. This photo was intentionally photoshopped to make it appear as though the airport was saying “Travel Advisory: when traveling don’t pet dogs”. As in, when in the UK never touch a dog. I thought it was funny/cutesy. I didn’t intend on sparking a big debate about the ethics of petting dogs or the rules about service dogs.

    Don’t touch service dogs.

    Pet dogs if you know them or are introduced to them.

    Basic dog rules people. Teach your children

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      I missed the Photoshop lol…

      I’ve been through enough airports with that doggo profile and a similar message I hadn’t considered the possibility it wasn’t some new way TSA was printing their “don’t pet the service dogs” poster.

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    Be careful, police dogs are often abused trained into being more violent than they otherwise would be.

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    Me going through TSA…

    I want to look and smile that the good boi, but I must look ahead and ignore him, because he is at work. Also because I have indica gummies on me so I can sleep on the plane. So I need to play it cool.

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    Yesterday two people got on the bus with two golden retrievers with obviously fake service dog vests on, who clearly had zero idea of what being a service dog meant. They immediately piled on each other and began gleefully humping each other, and then stuck their heads in people’s laps and demanded a pet. I see a lot more fake service dog vests lately and it’s often hilarious how not a service dog the dog is.