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    6 months ago

    The same could be said of Matrix though, I don’t think you can see a Matrix chat without an account either. Discord does have a forum layout… ish. It is pretty bad though and not something we use as a forum. It is used but really only as a way to separate topics in what would be a busy single chat area - more akin to something like Zulip. Even IRC channels tend to need you to connect with a nickname but unlike the others you can’t see chat history without a bouncer set up and at that point you have basically made an account in all but name.

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      6 months ago

      Why are you even mentioning matrix? We don’t want a chat server corpo or not, we want a real functional forum with topics and history and indexed by search engines, not a single chat log that disappears into the void after 24 hours of use.

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        6 months ago

        I feel you haven’t been reading what I’ve been saying if you are claiming a “single chat log”. The whole point of what I’m saying is that there are various forms of communication that can be used in a project and the one I’m part of literally couldn’t function with an async-only forum type setup. Chat is for temporary, transient communication. Forums (and by extension Lemmy/Reddit) are for longer form async discussions with defined topics. Both are valid as has been the case all the way back into the days of having both a mailing list and IRC channel for a project.

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      6 months ago

      Yeah matrix is even worse than discord for usability and finding things.

      Just use a normal publicly readable and indexed forum like has been common for the last 30+ years, I don’t understand the obsession with chat clients for this purpose.

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        6 months ago

        You know IRC has been used alongside mailing list for open source software communities and projects for literally decades right?

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          6 months ago

          But not in place of, no one is trying to say no chat clients ever, we just don’t want only chat clients.

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            6 months ago

            But… that is exactly what I’ve been saying since the start… If used correctly there is no need to instantly reject a project just because it uses Discord, or any other chat, as one of its options.