Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful youā€™ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutā€™nā€™paste it into its own post ā€” thereā€™s no quota for posting and the bar really isnā€™t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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    thereā€™s so much quantum woo in that article I want to sneer at, but I donā€™t know anywhere close to enough about quantum physics to do so without showing my entire ass

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      To me, the most sneerable thing in that article is where they assume a mechanical brain will evolve from ChatGPT and then assume a sufficiently large quantum computer to run it on. And then start figuring out how to port the future mechanical brain to the quantum computer. All to be able to run an old thought experiment that at least I understood as highlighting the absurdity of focusing on the human brain part in the collapse of a wave function.

      Once we build two trains that can run near the speed of light we will be able to test some of Einsteinā€™s thought experiments. Better get cracking on how we can get enough coal onboard to run the trains long enough to get the experiments done.

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      Well a good thing to remember re quantum mechanics, Schrƶdinger Cat is intended as a thought experiment showing how dumb the view on QM was. So it is always a bit funny to see people extrapolate from that thought experiment without acknowledging the history and issues with it. (But I think that also depends on the various interpretations, and this means Iā€™m showing a cheekily high amount of ass here myself).

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        Pretty much any mention of a thought experiment in the wild gets my hackles up. ā€œIsnā€™t it cool that the cat is alive and dead at the same time?ā€ Shut up! Shut up shut up shut up!!! Tho to be honest it might just be schrodingerā€™s cat that comes up. I wish theyā€™d leave the poor cat alone, and stop trying to poison it.

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          I have a whole series of rants about that cat, starting with how it doesnā€™t illuminate anything about quantum theory specifically ā€” as opposed to probabilistic or stochastic theories in general ā€” and culminating in ā€œHey, maybe we should stop naming things after pedo creeps.ā€

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          What really gets me is that we never look past Schrƶdingerā€™s version of the cat. I want us to talk about Bellā€™s Cat, which cannot be alive or dead due to a contradiction in elementary linear algebra and yet reliably is alive or dead once the box opens. (I guess technically it should be ā€œaliveā€, ā€œdeadā€, or ā€œundeadā€, since weā€™re talking spin-1 particles.)

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      There are some interesting ideas in that general direction (wrapping Bell inequalities within different new types of thought experiment, etc.), but some of the people involved have done rather a lot of overselling, and now bringing in talk of ā€œAIā€ just obscures the whole situation. Which was already obscure enough.

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        awesome! these are going straight to the list of things I should be reading