• dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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    3 months ago

    My issue with the two guns thing is that the “myth” they present is that it looks cool. Which is subjective, and for many people it does look cool. You’re unlikely to hit with any accuracy, but you’ll look cool missing.

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      3 months ago

      My issue with the two-guns one is that they use stormtroopers as shorthand for being a bad shot. The only time they were “bad shots” was in A New Hope where they were under orders to be bad shots. They were supposed to let the rebels escape on the Falcon, there was a tracking device on it.

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        3 months ago

        Pretty sure that’s mostly a retcon and it’s actually just plot armor preventing the stormtroopers from aiming.

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          3 months ago

          It was explained in the scene immediately after the Falcon departed the Death Star. Tarkin and Vader discussed the tracking device explicitly, and the fact that their escape was deliberate. Leia also speculated about it right after their escape, saying that their escape had been “too easy” and that she thought they’d let them go. This is in the same movie. How can that possibly be a “retcon”? Retcon is short for retroactive continuity, as in something that’s made up after the book or movie came out to explain things that happened in previous books and movies. You can’t retcon within the very same script.

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            3 months ago

            To me, “letting them go” applies to things like leaving escape routes open, posting minimal guards, leaving the tractor beam unguarded and off, not “shooting to miss”. What, did they put out an announcement at the morning briefing, ‘hey everyone if you see a stranger on our secret base make sure to shoot at them but not too accurately, even if this leads to your death’. I don’t buy it.

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              What, did they put out an announcement at the morning briefing, ‘hey everyone if you see a stranger on our secret base make sure to shoot at them but not too accurately, even if this leads to your death’.

              Yes. Exactly that. These are soldiers, they follow the orders they’re given. Indeed, they’re elite soldiers. The Emperor fully expects that if he orders them to their deaths they will follow those orders to the letter and die for him.

              They were ordered to let the Rebels go, while also trying to make it look like they were trying to capture them. That means shooting at them and missing, but only just missing. It means letting yourself get shot if that’s the only plausible way for those Rebels to escape. That takes incredible marksmanship and incredible discipline.

              Remember Obi-wan himself stated earlier in that same movie that “only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise” when admiring the evidence of their assault on the Jawa sandcrawler. Obi-Wan knows what he’s talking about. And that happened first, so you can’t even call it a “retcon” by any standard.

              Again, this is all stuff that was explicitly explained in the movie itself.