It really feels like people hate on her way more than they should. Can someone explain to me where it’s all coming from? I read some of her trans statements and honestly they weren’t that bad. If feels too me like on a scale of 1 to 10, the hate should be at a 3, but it always seems to be at an 8 or 9. WTF?
It’s true, for every bra I own, ciswomen everywhere collectively own one bra less. For every estrogen pill I hope, testosterone starts to form in ciswomen… I actually kidnapped a TERF off the street and grafted my penis onto her in order to have my vaginoplasty!
Really? That’s worth wishing she was dead? Who the fuck cares? Again, on a scale of 1-10, I think that rates a 2.
If you actually read her posts (the ones I read in 5 min of internet searching before I asked this question), her message is basically (paraphrasing) “I support trans people’s rights to live as they want, but I value womanhood and take pride in my womanhood. As such, I want trans people to live as they want, but I want to keep the idea of womanhood separate because I value it as a space for women.” I’m assuming she said something much worse somewhere else??? … but that’s really a fucking lame thing to base all this hate on. Really, there has to be something more, right? Right?
Nope. That’s it. This is literally what people want her dead for.
Draw your own conclusion on who’s crazy, but this is all she has ever expressed - that she takes pride/has suffered in being a woman, and also she is kinda gatekeeping the title and saying trans women don’t know that suffering. Which is actually true when you think about it - trans women presumably grew up as boys, and were not forced to adhere to the womanly gender roles or told they would be shit at career x or y, were never afraid of being raped in a dark alley, were never afraid of how much they had to drink or if they left their drink unsupervised for a moment…
Of course trans people aren’t getting the right treatment either, but all this lady has ever said is that her experience as a woman is fundamentally different from theirs, and wants it acknowledged that women have these issues. This is what everyone is attacking her for.
The main problem, as I see it, is not that her literal statements if made policy would be the most extreme in today’s overton window. The problem is that she’s made herself the face of transphobia by putting herself in the center of it. She’s taken her preexisting fame and used it to push her (admittedly not extreme) transphobia. When people say “name a transphobe,” they think of her – and this was her clear intention.
Because she has fame and power, she probably does the most direct damage to trans people overall. More than Jordan Peterson, etc.
You’re welcome. I am disappointed by all the downvotes floating around. I feel like your question was sincere and my answer is the cleanest cut through the flak of all of these. A reminder to everyone: downvotes are not for disagreements.
The remarks she makes have actual political sway, especially in the UK. She often talks of how “young women” will be permanently deformed by HRT and how we must stop this threat to womanhood. Well, they recently banned puberty blockers there, and I am sure that her influence had a real effect here. Politicians don’t just listen to other politicians.
Something else that I could mention is that despite being only like 50% extreme in what she is saying, she has written a book featuring a transvestite serial killer. On it’s own, that wouldn’t be so bad – I mean, in fiction anyone is allowed to be a villain, not just cis straight white men – but when combined with everything she’s been doing with her anti-transgender activism, it’s kind of telling that she has some actual hatred, it’s not just polite logical arguments. It really makes you wonder what she isn’t saying.
It really feels like people hate on her way more than they should. Can someone explain to me where it’s all coming from? I read some of her trans statements and honestly they weren’t that bad. If feels too me like on a scale of 1 to 10, the hate should be at a 3, but it always seems to be at an 8 or 9. WTF?
This sarcasm? She literally call us “The Penised” and claims we’re stealing all the womanhood.
“The mudbloods are stealing our magic!”
It’s true, for every bra I own, ciswomen everywhere collectively own one bra less. For every estrogen pill I hope, testosterone starts to form in ciswomen… I actually kidnapped a TERF off the street and grafted my penis onto her in order to have my vaginoplasty!
(I am being VERY sarcastic)
Really? That’s worth wishing she was dead? Who the fuck cares? Again, on a scale of 1-10, I think that rates a 2.
If you actually read her posts (the ones I read in 5 min of internet searching before I asked this question), her message is basically (paraphrasing) “I support trans people’s rights to live as they want, but I value womanhood and take pride in my womanhood. As such, I want trans people to live as they want, but I want to keep the idea of womanhood separate because I value it as a space for women.” I’m assuming she said something much worse somewhere else??? … but that’s really a fucking lame thing to base all this hate on. Really, there has to be something more, right? Right?
She said much worse, and even that statement is terrible because it translates to…
“I support Transpeople as long as they agree not to exist, because that makes my womanhood inherently less valuable.”
She has also likened us to rapists and abusers, claiming that we are only “pretending” to be women to attack the “real” women
And I believe you were the first person to say anything about wanting her dead.
Read the title of the thread you’re commenting in
Nope its just that. You for some reason seem to put it in the nicest light possible, but thats your perspective.
I think its easy enough to show how she is trying to actually harm certain people, which is absurd to worry about for a writer but here we are.
Nope. That’s it. This is literally what people want her dead for.
Draw your own conclusion on who’s crazy, but this is all she has ever expressed - that she takes pride/has suffered in being a woman, and also she is kinda gatekeeping the title and saying trans women don’t know that suffering. Which is actually true when you think about it - trans women presumably grew up as boys, and were not forced to adhere to the womanly gender roles or told they would be shit at career x or y, were never afraid of being raped in a dark alley, were never afraid of how much they had to drink or if they left their drink unsupervised for a moment…
Of course trans people aren’t getting the right treatment either, but all this lady has ever said is that her experience as a woman is fundamentally different from theirs, and wants it acknowledged that women have these issues. This is what everyone is attacking her for.
Here is a list. https://glaad.org/gap/jk-rowling/
The main problem, as I see it, is not that her literal statements if made policy would be the most extreme in today’s overton window. The problem is that she’s made herself the face of transphobia by putting herself in the center of it. She’s taken her preexisting fame and used it to push her (admittedly not extreme) transphobia. When people say “name a transphobe,” they think of her – and this was her clear intention.
Because she has fame and power, she probably does the most direct damage to trans people overall. More than Jordan Peterson, etc.
Thank you for being the only person who actually answered my question. I appreciate your response.
You’re welcome. I am disappointed by all the downvotes floating around. I feel like your question was sincere and my answer is the cleanest cut through the flak of all of these. A reminder to everyone: downvotes are not for disagreements.
The remarks she makes have actual political sway, especially in the UK. She often talks of how “young women” will be permanently deformed by HRT and how we must stop this threat to womanhood. Well, they recently banned puberty blockers there, and I am sure that her influence had a real effect here. Politicians don’t just listen to other politicians.
Something else that I could mention is that despite being only like 50% extreme in what she is saying, she has written a book featuring a transvestite serial killer. On it’s own, that wouldn’t be so bad – I mean, in fiction anyone is allowed to be a villain, not just cis straight white men – but when combined with everything she’s been doing with her anti-transgender activism, it’s kind of telling that she has some actual hatred, it’s not just polite logical arguments. It really makes you wonder what she isn’t saying.
Here’s a video on the topic:
https://youtu.be/7gDKbT_l2us?si=AdhUYzvPahT0gcRk
It’s 3 years old, and a lot has happened since then, but I think it’s still relevant.