• Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Why can’t we just get rid of gendered restrooms altogether?

    Just have a room with fully enclosed rooms for a toilet and then a common area for the sinks. Get rid of those stupid flimsy walls with cracks everywhere and two feet of space beneath the door and just have a bunch of individual rooms with a toilet in them. Guys can pee in a toilet, they don’t need a uniral.

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      A lot of bathrooms in Sweden are like this. It’s so nice to be able to go to the bathroom without people peeking at you through the stall cracks and hearing your every movement.

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        I’ve peed and shit in so many bathrooms with questionable walls in between the stalls. I have no shame when it comes to this. When I went to a summer camp, I would even use the stall without a door because it was the cleanest.

        In my 46 years of life, I can’t remember a single time anyone was “peeking” on me in the bathroom. What’s going on in Sweden where this is a common occurrence that needs to be stopped?

        And in my office now, even with floor to ceiling walls you can still hear am everything. I don’t think it solves that problem at all.

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      My college dorm was like this. Every bathroom was ungendered. The stalls weren’t fully floor to ceiling, but were slightly better than the average public bathroom. 99% of people got over it after a little culture shock at the very beginning (maybe 2-3 days).

      There was still one women-only bathroom in my building; I believe it was for a few students who asked for religious consideration. No biggie though for almost every student.

      It only led to one embarrassing moment for me: I (a guy) was singing Frank Ocean at the top of my lungs while showering. When I came out of the shower a girl was brushing her teeth and made eye contact with me and kind of snickered/giggled. Racewalked back to my room 💀

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        Yeah, that’s the one down side, but instead of two restrooms with 4 stalls + 2 stalls & 2 Urinals you can have one restroom with 8 stalls. Probably won’t have as big of a line since it’s not as limited.

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      I’ve starting to see more of those and I love them. They have shared sinks but closest for toilets. It’s nice.

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      As much as I agree, that will cost money, therefore it won’t happen. I feel the only way a place will do anything that I beneficial to the end user/customer is if it is profitable for them.

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      You can also have cameras in the hand washing area without violating anyone’s privacy this way.

      Such a simple solution to this whole stupid thing.

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    “She believes that referring to another person using pronouns that do not correspond with that person’s biological sex is harmful to that person because it is false and harmful to herself because it forces her to lie by denying her religious beliefs and scientific evidence,” it continues.

    Do you need another strand of pearls because you clutched the first one too hard, Karen?

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      No, but I could use some chalk. My brain hands were slipping during that round of mental gymnastics.

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      Can students sue to avoid sharing a restroom with bigots if that is against my religion?

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    There’s no previous cases of assault or harassment of cis people by trans people for using the bathroom. Their fears are not valid. It’s as valid as a student suing because they have a phobia of the color grey and can’t be forced to use a bathroom that has any grey in it.

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      The stupidest part to me is that cis women could also potentially assault other cis women in public restrooms but these bigots haven’t even considered that possibility.

      Also, if you are a cis man and are just desperate to sexually assault a woman in a public restroom, I would think that a janitor’s uniform and a mop would be enough.

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        Or even the concept that trans men exist. They are demanding to share restrooms with men, on the grounds that otherwise they may have to share restrooms with people they think are men.

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          Absolutely. And when I see one of these white knights (and it’s almost always a man) talk about how women have to be protected from men in public bathrooms and locker rooms and therefore people should only be forced to use the room corresponding to their biological sex, I show a picture of a man like this and ask them if they think the women they are desperate to protect would feel comfortable changing around him, despite his two X chromosomes.

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        And if you can’t trust the Mormon government of Utah when it comes to queer people… really, can you trust anyone?

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          Not sure what the Utah government has to do with news clippings but ok, you do you

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            It’s almost like the clippings alone don’t tell the full story.

            But come on- would Mormon leaders ever be deceptive?

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              Mormon leaders have nothing to do with the document. That’s why I’m baffled by your comment. It’s like you didn’t look at the document.

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                I did, in fact, look at the highly selective and edited document with no really good way to confirm every story. Or even more than one or two.

                You, on the other hand, either didn’t notice the URL, don’t know who runs Utah, are incredibly naive or just dishonest.

                The first article is from the Christian Broadcasting Network and many of the others are from Fox News.

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                  And?

                  The statement is there has never been a case and that’s false.

                  Anytime someone says there has never been… it’s almost always a false statement.

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    Cab I, a cis person, sue for being required to share a bathroom with other cis people?

    I don’t want to share bathrooms, thank you. That’s a violation of my religious beliefs (in my religion, pooping is a sin).

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    Why are we letting conservatives into public restrooms? They are notorious child-rapists and are known to attack innocent people in bathrooms if they don’t like the look of them.

    There is no room for conservatism or other hate-based ideologies in a modern civilization.

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      Agree. Some people just need to mind their own business. Unless someone is getting hurt, then just mind your own business and don’t get involved.

      I remember a woman entering a men’s bathroom before because the queue was long. The only reason I was upset was because if a man did they same he may get in trouble.

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        Next up trans and cis waterfountains.

        Ugh it made me cringe writing that. Hateful people ruin everything

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      That’s exactly what it is. “These children could be raped by a trans person!” Or they could be raped by a cis person. Of their own gender or another gender.

      In general, it’s not hard to find a time to sneak into a bathroom when no one’s looking. It’s not like they’re usually in some prominent place.

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    “She believes that referring to another person using pronouns that do not correspond with that person’s biological sex is harmful to that person because it is false and harmful to herself because it forces her to lie by denying her religious beliefs and scientific evidence,” it continues.

    I hate this argument. I’m conservatives and I will try to use the pronouns of choice. To me it’s just being polite. It’s like a name preference. You try to respect it. If you religion teaches you to be an asshole to everyone then it’s time to rethink your religion.

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    The American right: “I am so aroused by pissing and shitting and farting that I cannot pee downward if trans children are in earshot of me!”

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    It is amazing how few problems people have that they have the time and energy to spend on non issues like this.

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        Nah, I am be a Swede, but I can definately see that Americans have stuff to complain about.

        The problem is that the right people are complaining about the wrong thing.

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    Can the trans students sue for being harassed and bullied? That would be great

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      My daughter has a very close trans friend (who the school forces to use the girl’s room anyway). A girl was being a bigot to him in the bathroom, so he slapped her. Guess who did not get in trouble?

      Hint: not the openly queer one.