• Machindo@lemmy.mlEnglish
    56·
    3 months ago

    What’s really annoying is getting this error when you’re already on the latest version in the windows preview program.

    Thank goodness for steam. I just do my controller config in there now.

    (Side note. Buying a steam deck finally pushed me over the edge to try to do all my gaming on Linux. So far so good.)

    • pacmondo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      261·
      3 months ago

      To anyone who hasnt: do it! I did it a year ago and the only things you cant do are games with kernel level anticheat, but pretty much any of those games arent worth playing in my opinion anyways.

      • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.onlineEnglish
        101·
        3 months ago

        I tried with two different GPUs (Nvidia and AMD), and 6 different distros (including gaming specific ones), and my experience was garbage. Everything was super laggy, including steam itself.

        Eventually I gave up and reinstalled windows.

        And I’m not a windows fan boy. That install is the only non-linux system I run apart from my work PC (which I just use to remote into Linux).

        • Machindo@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          Give Pop!_OS a try. It has Nvidia drivers baked in. Make sure to enable GPU accelerated web views in steam.

          • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.onlineEnglish
            3·
            3 months ago

            BG3 was the most recent, but all games I tried had issues, even ones that are Linux verified. And I think it was from repo for the distros that weren’t specifically for gaming.

            • Lumisal@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              3 months ago

              BG3 runs fine for me on Nvidia 3090 using BazziteOS.

              Did you use different distros that were actually from different code bases, or was it just 6 flavors of Debian? BazziteOS is based off Fedora. I’ve had issues only with Debian based distros (which technically includes Ubuntu btw)

            • pacmondo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              21·
              3 months ago

              I agree with the other guy, I’ve done 3 playthroughs of that game on openSUSE tumbleweed with a GTX 1080.

              My experience is don’t try and run most games linux native, run them through proton in steam. Far more consistently out of the box working. If you run into any trouble, ProtonDB will have the fix posted 90% of the time

              I personally find games to be more glitchy on Wayland, so if you’re picking a compositor and want stability I’d say go X11.

              That said, if you want “just works” go Linux Mint. I set my partner up with it near december 2023 and it’s been smooth sailing. And they don’t touch the command line at all

  • DaddleDew@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5916·
    3 months ago

    This thread is weird. People complain about Microsoft doing its Microsoft thing but the moment someone suggests to stop using Microsoft products and switch to an increasingly viable and approachable alternative they get downvoted.

    “I don’t want a solution, I want to be angry!”

    • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
      132·
      3 months ago

      Because telling someone to completely abandon their previous working setup for a complete new one with new bugs and zero understanding of the environment, while also having to relearn their entire workflow is not a solution to a controller not working.

      • DaddleDew@lemmy.worldEnglish
        42·
        3 months ago

        I used to have those concerns. But I still switched earlier this year from being a die-hard Microsoft user since DOS in the 90’s. It’s no where nearly as bad as you make it sound.

        First of all, the controller not working is only the tip of the iceberg of the bullshit sandwich Microsoft has been serving its users and it has gotten far worse now with Windows 11. Microsoft has turned Windows 11 an anti-consumer nightmare of a platform that has zero care for privacy or even for treating paying users as anything else than a source of additional income to exploit further through things like ads and data mining. On a platform they paid for already, must I say again.

        Secondly, you can dual boot which means you don’t have to abandon your current setup and always have the option to go back to it should it not work for you. That being said, I haven’t booted my Windows partition in months and am increasingly considering repurposing the drive for something else now.

        Thirdly, what very little problems I encountered were a simple google search away to be fixed. And I am far from being a superuser in that environment. I tried to use Linux 10 years ago before and it was a PITA and I gave up. It isn’t like that anymore. It is much better. Things just work now unless you pick a shitty distro.

        Finally, I’ve had a harder time finding the settings in a Windows machine after an update that moved things around than I ever had when I first used Linux. And with Linux, especially if you use KDE Plasma as a desktop environment, if something isn’t where you want it, you can customize it to be exactly how you like it. You can make it mimic Windows if you want. There are even custom themes that make it look exactly the same if you really don’t want to change.

        And even if you don’t mind that rapidly growing list of major irritants, many people including myself cannot even upgrade to Windows 11 unless they buy a whole new machine even if they wanted to because of the arbitrary DRM chip requirements. And they’re dropping support for Windows 10 next year. So looking down the barrel of having to pay for a new computer while the current one works perfectly well, plus having to pay for another Windows license with which Microsoft will monetize the shit out of my usage of the platform with zero regards to my privacy, making the jump doesn’t sound that bad of a decision anymore. I did it and I’m glad I did.

    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.orgEnglish
      1815·
      3 months ago

      That’s windows users for you. Only complaining and never putting any effort into learning the alternatives.

      • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        122·
        3 months ago

        Mac is not Windows. As for better, these days, that is debatable. Apple has mostly stopped any kind of major growth, innovation, or rewrite a decade ago, after they ran out of the backlog of Jobs ideas. Now their products are just a cup game of feature juggling.

        • DominusOfMegadeus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          52·
          3 months ago

          Hard agree. They have gone way down hill, and you are spot on with your innovation comment. I still prefer them to Windows though, and their ecosystem still makes my life easier.

      • Darth_Mew@lemmy.worldEnglish
        86·
        3 months ago

        that isn’t just an OS change you dummy it’s a complete repurchase of equipment. nice suggestion don’t like windows/Linux jUsT bUy MaC hUrrdUrr

  • kyub@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    3825·
    3 months ago

    While this does seem overly restrictive and out of place there, the result of this isn’t bad, because everyone should be at the most recent vesion at all times, period. If you aren’t, you’re exposed to more security holes and bugs. So it’s weird that that program forces you to do that, but it’s still not bad that you’re forced to do it. If you get what I mean. For some less-caring users who’d otherwise never install updates, forced updates are actually a net positive.

    • MazonnaCara89@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      81·
      3 months ago

      However, as you can see, the creation dates for both the virtual disk of the VM and the Windows 10 ISO are August 2, 2024—just under nine days ago. I seriously doubt there is a significant Windows update that would prevent me from running Xbox Accessory without first updating my operating system

      • kn33@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1634·
        3 months ago

        Go ahead and update the firmware or change button bindings on an Xbox controller using Linux for me. Go ahead. I’ll wait.

        • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          371·
          3 months ago

          change button bindings

          AntiMicroX. Simple graphical application to rebind controller inputs to keyboard and mouse actions. You’re welcome.

        • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
          212·
          3 months ago

          If we’re assuming the user is trying to run this through Win10 to get the Bluetooth working (which is the only real reason I know of to update the firmware like that), then xpadneo supports Bluetooth out the box with no issue. Moreover, the user said they were trying to modify the settings and gave no mention of any firmware update.

          I hope you’re satisfied with the fruits of your eight minutes of patient waiting.

          • MazonnaCara89@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
            31·
            3 months ago

            I’m not looking to update the firmware of the controller; rather, I want to customize certain settings, such as rebinding keys and adjusting actuation points. While some of these modifications can be done with third-party software on Linux, my controller inherently supports these features at the hardware level. Therefore, I don’t see any reason not to take advantage of it

        • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.orgEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          Back in my day you just connect a controller and play. Do I have to be worried about people using my unpatched controller for a botnet now?

    • MazonnaCara89@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      91·
      3 months ago

      I’m using linux, tho I wanted to reverse engineer the program to make the controller customizable under linux, but if I don’t run windows I can’t do that!

  • Mwas alt (prob)@thelemmy.clubEnglish
    7·
    3 months ago

    “We need to update windows for ermmm security spyware and apps That use all your resources we want to shove the most spyware we will shove edge gx to gamers and regular edge to regular users and we will force all companies to not make their software cross platform” -Microsoft

  • tarsisurdi@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
    5·
    3 months ago

    I suffer from having to update the firmware of my Xbox controllers through a Windows Laptop we use for office work (using LibreOffice, btw) because they will stop working on my Fedora Linux machine after some time when I update the kernel modules for xone and xpadneo.

    It’s interesting to me that you can do that using a VM!!

    • Summzashi@lemmy.oneEnglish
      84·
      3 months ago

      I don’t have time to troubleshoot Linux all the time. So there’s one good reason.

    • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      How do I play my VR games? How do I test the cross platform application I develop runs correctly on Windows? How do I update the firmware on a device for which the firmware updater only works on Windows?

      I use Linux. These are some of the reasons I keep a Windows VM around. So no, it’s not true there is “literally no good reason”.

    • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      3 months ago

      OP wants their Xbox controller to just work so I don’t think Linux is the best option

    • MazonnaCara89@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      I’ve heard of it before, but the one thing preventing me from using it is my uncertainty about whether the mapping is done through software. Do I need Rewasd to always run in the background, or with the Elite V2 can I remap the key bindings directly on the controller without needing the software to be active?

  • jbk@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    41·
    3 months ago

    OTOH, that dialog looks horrible. Who designed that? Are all Xbox dialogs like that?

  • barsquid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    3 months ago

    I accidentally bought an Xbox controller but luckily realized driver updates and so on would be an endless parade of bullshit while I was still within the return window. Unbelievable that they are getting away with such poor user experience.

          • MazonnaCara89@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            Tho if you watch carefully on the xpadneo wiki, if you want to pair a xbox elite v2 controller with bluetooth you first need to pair it on windows with the same bluetooth card to be able to use it!

            • mbfalzar@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              I use an Elite Series 2, if that’s the same thing, and the one I’m currently using is the second one I bought because I broke the first. This one has never been paired to a Windows computer, I bought it after I switched to Linux, it paired normally and has just worked

              • MazonnaCara89@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
                1·
                3 months ago

                I have a Elite controller v2 and I wasn’t able to pair it on my laptop with arch, indeed I had to follow this instruction on their wiki https://atar-axis.github.io/xpadneo/#troubleshooting

                Use a Windows 10 computer on the same Bluetooth adapter to pair with the controller. It must absolutly be on the same Bluetooth adapter, i.e. the same computer (can be inside a virtual machine with Bluetooth passthrough) if it’s an internal Bluetooth adapter, or the same Bluetooth dongle. Then, you can get the pairing keys and install them within your Linux Bluetooth system.