This is more of a 2 part question. Should child porn that does not include a real child be illegal? If so, who is being harmed by it?
The other question is; does giving a pedophile access to “imitation” children give them an outlet for their desire, so they won’t try to engage with real children, or does it just reinforce their desire, thus helping them to rationalize their behavior and lead to them being more encouraged to harm real children?
I’ve heard psychologists discuss both sides, but I don’t think we have any real life studies to go off of because the technology is so new.
I’m just curious what the other thought out there are from people who are more liberty minded.


There’s nothing trollish, undereducated or blind about opposing the idea of “cutting some slack” to the most twisted and dangerous elements that is trying to invade the society.
On the other hand, an attempt to compare gays/women to pedophiles certainly does warrant raising a brow.
If you’re planning to continue with apples & oranges tactic, you may as well stop now - I won’t waste time on manipulations that are meant to support pedophilia apologetics.
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Im feeling disgusting defending this as well, but need to remember that working to avoid harm and critically analyzing two sides means thinking through the eyes of the other party. Im just happy ours is a philosophical discussion.
To counter the other person, whats more evil - fucking a kid or a small sex doll dressed as one? If my wife pulled out her old high-school uniform and fucked me its perfectly ok, but when she got it at 15 it wouldn’t be. Fucking a sex doll is ok, but its illegal if they pretend its underage (pretty sure no one keeps one around for 18 years). The arguement is literally do we allow someone to fuck a piece of silicon that resembles a kid in their own home where we would have no idea and couldn’t stop them anyway, or just tell them to “hold it in” until they find another way?
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Sorry to first one, typo. Should have been a question, not a statement.
The point with the last is that silicon isn’t a person - you can’t say “this one is ok but this one isnt”.
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Id like one that looks like a cardio bunny… especially if they can spot me as well. Double bonus.
Y’all seem to have reached an impasse here in the realm of pure morality, so lets try something a little more grounded (and surely less controversial!) Political application. I won’t even slippery slope, I promise.
Lets suppose your favored political party has gained power (however briefly) and is able to push through legislation banning the consumption of any media depicting an immature person in a sexual context, regardless of whether it involved an actual child.
What would enforcement look like? You can’t simply follow the traffickers or CPS reports, as criminals could simply create the media for themselves on a private harddrive (say by drawing a picture or writing erotica) so law enforcement would need some way to investigate any citizen’s home and private spaces for potential contraband.
Do you think that there is a government currently on this planet clear enough of corrupted elements to avoid abusing this power to target their own political enemies?
Good way to move to a more productive area of discussion, but sounds like they just want to block you.