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    Fracking is contributing to climate change and can harm local environments.

    Medicare for all is a popular progressive universal health care solution.

    In an ideal world her positions on these would at best be the platform of the right wing candidate.

    In our world the “left” candidate continues to be right of global center

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      You’re against fracking but don’t like it when a candidate is for less fracking?

      What’s wrong g with universal health care? If the military has it why can’t civilians?

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        The article is saying she no longer supports a fracking BAN and no longer supports Medicare for all, i.e. she has shifted her views right.

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          The article says it, has Harris said she isn’t going to do anything about fracking?

          And just because she changed some of her views to win battle ground states means you don’t support her anymore and are going to vote for Trump? No candidate is perfect. It she’s so much better than Trump

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            wow dude chill out, we don’t have to blindly and ignorantly worship Harris to prove we’re not Trump supporters.

            This is blue MAGA shit. Fuck off with that

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              Oh shut up lmao. I’m voting for the best candidate. I’m not sorry I don’t support a convicted felon. Harris isn’t perfect but she’s so much better than Trump.

              You can pick any president in history and nit-pick their policies. What you’re doing is making it seem like she’s a worse option than a convicted felon. And just because I support her doesn’t mean that I’m blindly following her. Stop projecting.

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                you’re squashing any criticism and accusing people of being Trump supporters for wishing she was more progressive.

                That’s silencing progressive voices (like mine)

                All either of us said was we hope she doesn’t allow fracking

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                  You’re free to criticize anyone you want. I’m criticizing Trump. I’m telling you she isn’t perfect. I’m telling you that I’m booting for the best candidate. Tell me, how am I silencing progressive voices when I am saying she isn’t perfect?

                  But why don’t you go and tell us who you plan on voting for?

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                    I’m an American expat that hasn’t lived there since I was a baby but if I can figure out how to vote it’ll be for Harris.

                    You’re silencing voices with your reaction, we can share in our disappointment that she apparently no longer supports Medicare for All and we can share in our disappointment that she apparently softened her climate strategy without accusing each other of being saboteurs and doing the equivalent of asking to see my papers to prove I’m not a Trump supporter.

                    It’s rabid, psychotic behavior.

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      She needs to steal votes from trump.

      If she doesn’t she won’t be pres.

      The best way to woo voters from the right is to avoid being too far left.

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        Isnt this how hillary clinton lost? appealing too much to nobody in particular?

        The center is small and fickle in the US. Imo its less they’re turned off by leftist policies (people forget red florida passed higher min wages by initiative) and more they’re turned off by democrats who drag their feet or complicate things unneccessarily or who balk when their corporate donors tighten the leash.

        The way to campaign in the US is to distance yourself from parties while sticking to popular policies.

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          Isnt this how hillary clinton lost? appealing too much to nobody in particular?

          Yes, but the alternative involves not sprinting to the right in order to peel off exactly zero votes from the Republican party.