I feel like IRC is yet another obstacle to newcomers, in addition to email based git flow, debbugs, guile stack traces and zero editor (or very early WIP) integration except for Emacs. This is literally vendor lock-in. I’ve been contributing for years and now i almost have no trouble, but it was painful and I don’t think it is fair to expect everyone to go through all this while with Nix you just need to open a PR.
What is the point of building a completely free system, that does not try to extract value from users, and actually tries to emancipate them by offering a trusted computing ecosystem, if no one gets to enjoy it because you made it so inaccessible that people are not able to use it? I’m exaggerating but I think you get the point. Now with efforts like the survey it looks like a fresh breath of air just entered the project, and the situation with contributions is a little better than a couple of years ago. I really hope we can pull an effort to make the bar for using and contributing Guix a little lower than it currently is, I am convinced that if we make some effort more people could liberate their computing environment with Guix
The email git flow could definitely be better and having the patch added as a regular patch file shouldn’t break things (setting up git-send email was surprisingly cumbersome with email security settings and such). Hopefully they are able to improve (like the normal industry git repos) or at least add a compatibility layer that makes their existing setup work with a web interface for managing commits (I’d like to close/merge two broken issues I made and either I don’t have permission for email commands or I don’t know the proper syntax, so now I’m waiting for it to just expire).
I feel like IRC is yet another obstacle to newcomers, in addition to email based git flow, debbugs, guile stack traces and zero editor (or very early WIP) integration except for Emacs. This is literally vendor lock-in. I’ve been contributing for years and now i almost have no trouble, but it was painful and I don’t think it is fair to expect everyone to go through all this while with Nix you just need to open a PR.
What is the point of building a completely free system, that does not try to extract value from users, and actually tries to emancipate them by offering a trusted computing ecosystem, if no one gets to enjoy it because you made it so inaccessible that people are not able to use it? I’m exaggerating but I think you get the point. Now with efforts like the survey it looks like a fresh breath of air just entered the project, and the situation with contributions is a little better than a couple of years ago. I really hope we can pull an effort to make the bar for using and contributing Guix a little lower than it currently is, I am convinced that if we make some effort more people could liberate their computing environment with Guix
The email git flow could definitely be better and having the patch added as a regular patch file shouldn’t break things (setting up git-send email was surprisingly cumbersome with email security settings and such). Hopefully they are able to improve (like the normal industry git repos) or at least add a compatibility layer that makes their existing setup work with a web interface for managing commits (I’d like to close/merge two broken issues I made and either I don’t have permission for email commands or I don’t know the proper syntax, so now I’m waiting for it to just expire).