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alessandro@lemmy.ca to PC Gaming@lemmy.ca · 9 months ago

Microsoft is bringing annoying Windows 11 Start menu ads to Windows 10

www.neowin.net

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Microsoft is bringing annoying Windows 11 Start menu ads to Windows 10

www.neowin.net

alessandro@lemmy.ca to PC Gaming@lemmy.ca · 9 months ago
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If you are sticking to Windows 10 because it has fewer annoyances than Windows 11, especially in the Start menu, we have bad news for you.
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  • DaddleDew@lemmy.world
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    They figured if they make Win 10 just as bad as Win 11 people will finally switch over.

    Obligatory Linux plug.

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      I migrated the day before yesterday. A company can only feed you hot logs, straight from the factory, for so many years before you tire of pretending the taste is acceptable.

      • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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        I dunno, I’d eat Costco hot dogs all day every day.

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          Preach, brother. I wouldn’t live long, but I’d finally live happy

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          They really do have outstanding tubesteaks

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      Obligatory anti cheat means gaming on Linux isn’t straightforward

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        Your laptop must be an exception. I’ve installed Linux Mint on an old laptop that couldn’t even run Windows 10 properly and it just worked with zero hiccup.

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      • Prison Mike@links.hackliberty.org
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        Can’t tell if you’re riding the cliche or serious

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            i chose the nuke it strategy, just burned it to the ground from frustration, then eventually made it to bazzite

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        I assume this is either a meme or a very unique situation. “Not working” is too generic, if you can provide more details we could even help

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          • JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org
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            I’m not familiar with the brand, but general ideas that come to mind to troubleshoot are:

            • Disable secureboot if enabled. Understanding you’ll lose that security feature of course.
            • See if there’s an option to mark your storage as removable in the installer (–removable flag in grub iirc). My (pretty old) motherboard does not seem to respect attempts to add uefi entities but it happily boots off a “removable” uefi install.
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            Quick q: do you use all the space available or partition your disk?

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        What make and model, what problem is it giving you?

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          • Nik282000@lemmy.ca
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            I had a similar problem with an NUC where the install would work but was unbootable after. In my case the USB showed up as both a BIOS and UEFI boot device and the mobo was picking the legacy mode. This made the install a legacy boot install which was not bootable.

            To fix it I had to manually choose to boot the install USB’s UEFI mode.

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        What distros did you try?

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        Super weird. My laptop had a new enough GPU that Windows didn’t even have proper drivers yet and it worked out of the box on Linux.

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        When you say Any Linux, are you referring to debian derivatives only? Have you tried rpm based? I had same issue with one laptop. However Bazzite offers images based on hardware type so one of those might work

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        Skill issue.

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            What’s the model number?

            And specifically windows recovery partitions enjoy nuking grub at every step.

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                Well, there’s your problem. Windows nukes it in a blind panic.

                As an alternative, windows in a vm for your work software, Linux as the only physical install.

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                Does it allow for a second SSD?

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    YEEEEEEY! THIS IS SOOOO COOL! SUCH A FEATURE!!!

    god i hate Microsoft.

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    Microsoft wants everyone to suffer. Even the smarter windows users.

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      You would think they make enough on their corporate licenses to cover the cost of home users and whatever piracy still exists.

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        There’s no such thing as enough in this capitalist wasteland.

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          Gotta chase that perpetual growth.

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        I was sucker back then as I paid for a home license for $165 cad though I rectified the mistake by donating more to Linux projects all together

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          Same, I bought 7 and 10 but have since put more into Debian, Wikipedia, Archive.org and some other projects than I will ever spend again on a Windows license.

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        Office is what pays the bills. Everything else is icing on top.

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      Smartest users are already using OpenShell and don’t have anything to fear, at least from this change… for now…

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    Linux is free btw

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    Every day that passes, I feel more validated in my decision to no longer use their OS.

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    God damnit. I have a W10 drive left because SteamVR is still a little clunky on Debian.

    I really hope valve comes out with a new release of SteamOS for desktops, the Steam Deck version is damned near flawless.

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      Really just does not seem like they are interested in doing it. I feel like they would’ve said something by now

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        A steam deck beta update from the past week or two that they were working on adding support for the ROG Ally. The verge asked valve about it, and they confirmed they’re actively working on making it support other handheld PCs.

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          Handheld =/= tower I want to build lol

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            Right, I would just assume bringing it to other handhelds is the first step in it having universal hardware support.

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              Eh you’d think that but they haven’t done a desktop update since early 3.0. It’s been years

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        It won’t make them any more money so it’s not like there is a financial incentive for them, but they do occasionally do things just because they aren’t assholes.

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          Honestly I would kill for a proper steamOS release. I’d even pay money for it.

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            Ditto, a purpose built gaming OS would be worth the price of avoiding Windows.

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      There’s been a lot of positive buzz about Bazzite.

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        I’ll have to look again, I thought it was abandoned.

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      OpenShell is your friend then. I haven’t seen the Windows 8 or 10 menu in years except when using the text launcher to start OpenShell after I closed it.

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        In 7 and 8 I really liked the Gnome-like ability to just type the first few letters of a program and hit enter. OpenShell looks like I’m not the only one.

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    Thank you kindley Microsoft, It is what I crave! I need it like the Microplastics I got installed in my ballsack.

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    Linux looks more and more like the better choice. Some more reasons here despite the ad annoyance: https://www.xda-developers.com/reasons-linux-good-gaming/

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    I think the various debloat scripts (Chris Titus etc.) should take care of this.

    Obviously this remedy is just harm reduction.

    Going forward I will be maining various Linux distros and using Wine/Proton compatibility, or TinyWin10 on a VM, for any tasks that absolutely require Windows.

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    May I interest you with Ameliorated?

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      I checked the website, so it’s like a micro scripted app compilation?? Does the thing is a run/tweak then close, or does it needs to reside as a background service/task?

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        You start with a fresh Windows install and run the playbook on it. It’s practically a one time script

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    Geez, MS, it’s a place to filter a list with a few keystrokes and/or click a link or punch enter. It’s such shit ad real estate you’re just pissing off people about to discover nobara or this for nothing

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      Ahh loves me some classic shell

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    And i just switched my last windows 10 machine to linux 🫡🖕

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    At least I could install Windows 10 in QEMU. I think I’ll go back to Win7 for VMs then.

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    Just thinking out loud, if you use another launcher app, do you ever have to use the start menu?

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    Open shell or start 11 from stardock

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