• Hugo van Kemenade@mastodon.socialOP
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    3 months ago

    @FizzyOrange
    > 15% of people still on a version that’s over 5 years old is pretty bad.

    Which version/year is that?

    > Most modern languages have pretty much everyone on the latest version.

    I’d be very interested in some stats, if you happen to know some.

    > Fortunately we finally have a better option - Rye (and maybe uv now?) can install recent versions for you. Hopefully that will improve matters.

    Yeah, uv can do that, I’m also hopeful!

    https://docs.astral.sh/uv/guides/install-python/

      • Hugo van Kemenade@mastodon.socialOP
        1·
        3 months ago

        @FizzyOrange

        > 3.8 or less. 3.8 was released 5 years ago.

        The survey opened in Nov 2023, when 3.8 was still 4 years old, so 6% was on versions 5 years or older (3.7 and older, the EOL versions).

        Thanks for stats. I guess Rust is partly well-updated because of the excellent tooling.

        • Hugo van Kemenade@mastodon.socialOP
          1·
          3 months ago

          @FizzyOrange
          I processed the Node.js numbers:

          v22: 3.2%
          v21: 2.1%
          v20: 31.4%
          v19: 0.5%
          v18: 37.8%
          v17: 0.3%
          v16: 14.5%
          v15: 0.3%
          v14: 5.1%
          v13: 0.1%
          v12: 2.2%
          v11: 0.1%
          v10: 1.5%
          v9: 0.1%
          v8: 0.5%
          v7: 0.0%
          v6: 0.2%
          v5: 0.0%
          v4: 0.1%
          v0: 0.0%
          unknown: 0.0%

          v12 came out on 2019-04-23, 5.5 years ago, so 5% is over 5 years old. Not that different from Python.

          I think more importantly, Node.js 18, 20 and 22 are still supported, and we see a similar clustering as Python around non-EOL versions.