• OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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    Why would I need to seriously argue against what is essentially tropes, including the asiatic hordes trope? Your argument speaks for itself.

    Compare the size of the soviet army at the start of the war to the size of the French and German armies. Now compare the Soviet delaying actions to the invasion of France.

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      No idea what tropes you talking about, those are history book facts. Embarrassing, but facts.

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        Remind me how many French and British troops were bypassed and encircled during the invasion of France?

        Remember that the combined forces in France were much larger and more mechanized than the soviet army during barbarossa, and were invaded by less troops

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          The truth or some warped version of “Stalin was not that bad” reality you expect?

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            Literally just look up the numbers on Wikipedia(or whatever other center-right source you consider credible) and stop embarrassing yourself.

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              Wikipedia literally quotes Soviet archives. If that is center right, I’m curious to know what is left.

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                Okay, then go find other sources for these numbers:

                • Number of axis troops invading France

                • Number of French and British commonwealth troops during the initial defense of France

                • Number of axis troops invading the Soviet Union

                • Number of Soviet troops during the initial defense of the Soviet Union

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                  I suspect that anything right of the Soviet archives won’t be good enough for you. And even those are embarrassing.

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                    The point of this exercise is for you to find the numbers and experience a moment of self reflection. What I think of the credibility of the numbers doesn’t matter.

                    You won’t though. One has to wonder why?