• ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
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    It’s another example, along with many other groups, of some base authoritarian or in/out-group mindset superseding all other principles and imperatives.

    For evangelicals, the desire for this authoritarian leader supersedes any imperative to act in a moral or biblically-sanctioned way. For conservatives, the desire supersedes their ideological imperatives of supporting law enforcement and being tough on crime. And for this police organization, that desire supersedes both their professional identities and their loyalty to their own officers, who were directly attacked by Trump’s people.

    It’s morbidly fascinating. Yes, they have “right-wing” in common, but there is a unique betrayal of core principles happening for each of them. There has to be some common psychological need that Trump supplies to all of these different groups.

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      It’s morbidly fascinating. Yes, they have “right-wing” in common, but there is a unique betrayal of core principles happening for each of them.

      Hasn’t Conservatism always been this way? A big tent of people with single issues they care about, all of whom don’t care what the others want, so long as they get what they want, (almost) always just for themselves.

      This is a political group that started with the primary belief that ‘inheritance based on birth was the foundation of a stable society.’

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        I agree about the conservativism, but I’m saying none of these groups are getting what they want. The religious people are advancing a man morally contrary to their stated beliefs. The police are advancing a man legally contrary to their beliefs.

        They’re getting something else, it’s fulfilling a psychological need more powerful to them than their foundational beliefs. I’m sure tribalism is part, but this seems more insidious.

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          What I am saying is they are getting what they want, it’s just far smaller than most people will expect.

          Religious people don’t need an actual religious man up there, they want abortion banned, and he’ll do it, so they vote him. The police want to be unaccountable, with larger and larger budgets, so they vote the guy who will do it. The Police at large won’t suffer with a criminal in charge, it won’t change their day to day at all other than they’ll find it easier to do illegal things that Trump wants.

          Organized religion has always been hypocritical, the Jesus-following ones often from the forefront. Jesus would be stoned to death by the current mob of Christians in the US as a Communist/Socialist/etc. Police are often the driving force of Fascist takeovers of nations. The idea they’d allow a criminal in charge seems pretty in-line with the fact huge portions of police are already criminals, they just are either immune/won’t be targeted for prosecution or hide their crimes with their fellow cops.

          The Right has virtually always existed with projection, from ‘law and order’ to ‘religious humility’ to ‘non-violent protests.’

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      The common psychological needs are a mix of racism, the acceptance & glorification of ignorance & stupidity.

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    I mean, the criminal will let them continue abusing their power as police officers. The prosecutor will hold them accountable. Who do you think they’d endorse?

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      Come on now there is absolutely no reason to believe Harris would hold police accountable at all. You don’t need to lie to criticize trump there is plenty of truth you can draw from.

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        You’re right, I probably should have said, “the prosecutor is more likely to hold them accountable.”

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    What are the cutpoint positions in the government hierarchy where badness switches from the anti-system side to the system side or vise versa?