This is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
I knew Harris would wipe the floor, but this is incredible.
The immigrants are eating our pets\s
It would be funnier if there wasn’t a sizeable percentage of people who support the cheetoh. There is still a real chance of that demented racist pos winning come november.
With any luck, that number just got smaller, even if by just a little bit.
Something I noticed is that even Twitter was making fun of Trump. I never thought I’d see that happen.
EXECUTE THE BABY was trending for at least a little bit
With any luck, that number just got smaller,
The Zionist tangent from Kamala is likely going to alienate more Muslim-Americans, which genuinely puts Michigan into question. Muslim-Americans have been leaning more towards Stein and West than Harris according to polling, so we will have to see.
Dude read the room. You’ve railroaded a ton of threads to talk about Harris and Israel. You don’t have to force every conversation into that. Let this comment thread be about something else.
You realize that by demanding people shut up about genocide, you’ve actually incentivized users to talk about genocide, right?
I am literally talking about the debate, though. This isn’t a random Harris thread, she very clearly went on a Zionist tirade in the face of her losing ground in Michigan and other Swing States with high percentages of Muslim-American voters, that’s factually a bad move that could impact her electoral chances, regardless of my personal disdain for genocide.
Yeah she did, and you started another comment thread in this post about it. Talk about it there. You don’t need to railroad every conversation into trying to convince people that Harris is a monster. Let other people talk about other stuff from time to time.
It isn’t derailing, the comment was about Trump’s chances getting smaller, when there are material reasons for Trump’s chances to get larger despite his poor performance specifically due to salient issues in swing states.
Counterpoint: Harris doesn’t need to be a monster such that it is a dereliction of democratic duty to not speak about it constantly.
Post-script to that counterpoint: You don’t need to railroad people talking about Copmala Handcuffs being a flamethrower unto human life and liberty her entire career into trying to convince people it’s worth helping and hoping she gets a new fuel tank handed to her.
Collaborator.
Maybe that was lost in translation. Maybe what they meant to say is they love cunnilingus.
ABC gave Trump a massive handicap but he still managed to shoot himself in the foot a few times. Even the moderator roasted him once or twice.
I am here for transgender alien prison surgeries
Trans immigrants are stealing our cheeseburgers!
Has anyone seen Fido?
Throwing all the taking points into a bucket. I bet those prisoners are also learning critical race theory.
woke Marxist liberal critical race theory.
Any more smooth brain buzzwords we can throw in there?
If only Prisoners were being taught Marxist theory.
Just the thought… Hang on… I got something in my eye
""Harris also wrote that she supported taxpayer funding of gender transition surgeries for detained immigrants and federal prisoners.
Harris was asked if, as president, she would use “executive authority to ensure that transgender and non-binary people who rely on the state for medical care – including those in prison and immigration detention – will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender transition, including all necessary surgical care.”
Harris replied, “Yes.”"
Alien and prison, taxpayer paid surgeries are on the menu, boys. Break in illegally or commit a crime, and your next surgery is free!
If you’re in prison for life, and you want to kill yourself because of gender dysphoria, providing you the medical care to avoid that is the humane thing to do. Period.
If you are an immigrant detained for 6-12 months before deportation, the the odds of this applying to detained immigrants is near 0, but let’s say 1% it does, this would be tailored at ensuring they can have the drugs they require.
Keeping people from shooting out the back of their fucking heads or swallowing a bottle of painkillers to end it all is always the humane choice.
Don’t worry, we could fund it all by just not administering a few death penalties (those are more expensive than life imprisonment).
This is rage bait. How many times a year would this happen? Two? Three? There are more important things to talk about. That’s why they’re taking about this
Dude are you forgetting that people are ok with death penalty AND it’s normalized to die without treatment if you can’t pay for it?
The moderator are giving Trump so much time. They won’t control him at all.
got the feeling he is not using it for his own benefit
Absolutely bonkers they won’t enforce the rules. Mute his mic and ignore him.
I haven’t verified it but I read on another post that the Harris campaign specifically asked for the mics to be left on during this debate. If that’s true, it stands to reason that she wanted them to be lenient with Trump, so that now he can’t pull the “They didn’t let me talk!” bullshit when talking about his less than stellar (generous way of putting it) performance.
Sun Tzu nods, wisely.
Absolutely negative levels of love for Harris here but facts. “Never interrupt your enemy while they’re in the middle of making a mistake.”
Yes, and he still lost handedly. That extra time was all rambles and nonsense. I think in the end it was better.
(Yes, I still would have preferred they muted him, ultimately).
What does it mean to lose? I guarantee that Trump supporters disagree.
“see, I don’t have a nose anymore, but it’s worth it because he owns the liberals… it’s happening any time now, just wait and see”
He’s a compulsive liar who’s angry at things he’s fabricated for his own benefit. How the fuck is he even being considered for the job?
Because the description you wrote pretty much describes every president since Johnson at the absolute latest.
It didn’t matter what the question was, Trump kept turning it back to immigration. He’s only got one talking point, and it’s based on fear of the other.
Exactly, if the Republicans didn’t bomb the immigration reform bill not to long ago, he’d have nothing to fearmonger over.
Democrats outflanking the Republicans on the right over immigration has been a wild one. Though it’s been happening for years, they usually weren’t so proud and open about it. Obama himself was infamously known as the “Deporter-in-Chief,” and Biden not only didn’t put a stop to the concentration camps the democrats and liberals feigned outrage over with Trump, but also deregulated them and sent people to unknown fates, as well as allowing for and advertising the private subcontracting of these concentration camps, and pretending that was progress. Very normal country, with parties that are definitely not just two hands of the same sociopathic capitalist class.
These immigrants and refugees are people who are, I will add, fleeing from countries that the west under both parties have spent a century terrorizing, destroying, destabilizing, starving, and exploiting (same story with the European refugee crises, the refugees are blamed and demonized when they are all fleeing from the chaos and suffering and destruction caused and continuously caused by western imperialism — a bipartisan and usually NATO-spearheaded affair — in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, etc.)
Absolutely, however they still seem more sane than trumps MAGA train. Hopefully we can get a decent party for the following elections here as a 3rd choice… but I highly doubt that will ever happen here.
Trump looked more incoherent this time than in the previous debates, what with the “immigrants are coming to eat your pets” line and other zingers like post-birth abortion nonsense. There were also some weird moments where he said stuff like “Kamala hates Israel,” prompting her to go off on her undying loyalty to Israel.
Harris was overall more presentable, but had some horrible policy moments, such as repeating debunked claims about sexual assault on October 7th as she restated her undying loyalty to Israel (which could materially cost her Michigan as Muslim voters are turning to Stein and Cornel West over Harris), or stating that Climate Change is an existential threat in one breath and promising to never ban fracking in the next, along with bragging about gas production.
Overall it’s a clear “win” for Harris over Trump if we are purely measuring debate performance, Harris looked far better and answered more coherently, though her environmental positions, immigration positions, and foreign policy are far to the right of where they should be, especially concerning swing state polling.
That is, of course, ignoring my personal disdain for liberalism and both candidates in general for being far-right, this is purely an analysis of the debate within the context of the election.
this pretty much sums it up. I thought trump would be incoherent, but some of the stuff out of his mouth was borderline surreal. Harris had completely tuned herself to ‘beat’ trump, and while it worked, it’s painfully clear that she doesn’t have a single original thought - nothing but platitudes, the same canned phrases about working families and small businesses, same tired defence of Israel.
That pretty much sums them up nicely. Both represent the two sides of dying Empire.
Trump is a bit of a wrecking ball, his far-right populist rhetoric appeals to rising material frustrations with the Petite Bourgeoisie, ie small business owners and the like, along nationalist lines. Strong aesthetic patriotism, lack of consistency or coherence, promises of restoring grander times and power. General far-right nonsense that sees dying Empire as it is, but blaming it on immigrants and minorities instead of addressing material conditions.
Harris is plucked straight from the stock-standard Empire maintainers. Her policies are largely Biden’s promises carried over, with firm Imperialist support for Israel and “the most lethal military in the world.” She isn’t attempting to appeal to fascists, but she is trying to appeal to those with vested interest in maintaining Imperial Hegemony. Small concessions and frequent doublespeak - claiming Climate Change is an existential threat in one breath, then boldly taking pride in record gas production and promising to never ban fracking in the next. She’s more coherent, which ironically makes the double-speak stand out clearer.
It would be funny if it wasn’t tragic.
He’s at his best when he’s borderline surreal. Remember when he accused Ted Cruz’ dad of killing JFK? lmfaoo
Both of these candidates deserve the Hague. But the Netherlands better arm up first! (That bill passed the Senate 75-19, with 30 democrats and 45 republicans in support. Never not a terrible country. Vote Communist and join the PSL)
His fans will say he won and looked powerful. He didn’t, but they won’t care.
Wish he’d been pressed more about killing the immigration bill. Every time he complained about it, remind him that he killed the immigration bill.
Wish Orban wasn’t a diplomatic conflict. Trump saying Orban endorsed him should have been a liability but you probably can’t outright call him a wannabe dictator.
I doubt it changes the mind of too many people who already had a preference, but maybe a few hopefully. Somehow there are undecided people, I hope they saw it plainly. I don’t think there was much that will hurt Harris from it. She performed very well.
I don’t think there was much that will hurt Harris from it. She performed very well.
She was articulate, well-spoken, performed well unscripted, and next to Trump she looked like she had her shit very together.
Mexican here. Can confirm that we have plenty of stray dogs and cats here to eat. We have plenty of pet dogs and cats to eat too, but it’s troublesome to deal with their owners/masters. Don’t worry about us, we won’t go there to eat your pets. I wish my fellow countrymen wouldn’t have to go there and expose themselves to be treated this unfairly.
My favorite was when he accused the entire world of giving people to Harris so she could place them into the US as harmfully as possible.
Nobody deserves that leadership. It’s embarrassing.
Who woulda guessed the former prosecutor out performed the convicted felon
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So say we all
We’re sorry.
I thought it was funny how Trump was just nodding along while Harris was saying that people often leave his rallies due to boredom. Also, him basically outright saying that immigration has never happened in the history of the country, along with the other nonsensical things he’s said.
24 comments, zero about the American/Israeli genocide. Stay classy yanks!
Gotta remember this is a .world community, Lark; we both know there’s a staggering percentage of ghouls here more than happy to try and discourse with bloodied hands, bloodied jowls, and the remains of their last kill still visibly caught between their teeth.
Yeah I wasn’t paying attention to the comm. Still though, it should surely be a major topic. I don’t understand the American people at large.
My pet theory is that extreme atomization drains the empathic potential of the garden variety yankee to barely within their attempt at a nuclear family. Extendeds if you’re lucky. tl;dr they don’t have a reason to care.
I like to think that I have a decent grasp of the world, particularly as a Marxist. But sometimes I really struggle to get into the settler cultural mindset. I don’t want to read Settlers at this point in time because I’m already depressed and angry enough. I just can’t believe how quickly all of this became normal.
Don’t feed the communist.
Says the over-fed techbro that still felt the need to comment…
Pain, absolute pain. Can we please not have another debate?
We can tie that in with shorter campaign seasons too.
I’m not American so my opinion doesn’t matter, but anyways…
Harris obviously better than the deranged lunatic Trump. I don’t think much more needs to be said on that.
Harris is still a liberal/centrist though and I’m a leftist so I disagree with many parts of her platform.
I streamed it while I was working on other things but I thought it was pretty hilarious. Kamala seemed to be intentionally pushing Trumps buttons to derail him and he just could not accept that he is not universally loved.
Honestly though, given how Trump lies and Kamala was putting on a show the whole thing seemed so cynical and pointless. I’ve watched every presidential and vice presidential debate since Bush Jr.‘s second term even in the "good ol’ days" when it wasn’t just a sound bite circus very rarely was a president even able to achieve the lofty goals they pitched the American people on.
The whole thing is farcical in 2024. The lack of shared reality the Trump era has ushered in makes it next to impossible to trust anything a politician says. Kamala had spunk and moxy and was very down to earth and likeable, but policy wise she made a lot of statements the presidency doesn’t have the power to deliver on. Even with the insane power the supreme court gave the executive branch a few months ago.
Trump was Trump. It’s pretty clear how much his brain has rotted when you compare this debate with the one he had with Clinton. But otherwise you can’t trust a single word he says. His position on any matter is irrelevant because he’ll retcon it later if it’s inconvenient. Meanwhile Kamala vowed to continue helping our frenemies do some ethnic cleansing and spent most of the debate posturing for the idiots to stupid to already have an opinion.
