Seems like just about everyone has a video doorbell and/or other cameras monitoring their property. Took it for granted in my youth without even knowing it.
I would actually be kind of proud of my kids if they threw a successful party with their friends when I was out of town. It seems like kids barely party anymore. As long as they clean up afterwards and don’t break a bunch of stuff, I’d pretend not to notice.
Have you considered letting them party and being a cool responsible adult that sticks around to make sure everyone is safe. I had some friends growing up with parents like this. Their theory was the kids are going to party anyway so if you give them a safe space its less likely to go poorly. Anyone who got a little too sick or emotional ended up with an experienced adult to help them recover.
Stock the fridge with Pedialyte, waffle mix, orange juice, and bacon, and your house will be the favorite of the kids around the neighborhood.
It’s important as the adult to help the totally-legal kids who don’t quite know how to handle alcohol recover from a bad night.
“Yeah dude just encourage kids to drink at your house bro enable underage drinking dude what are you a loser bro just give the kids some alcohol”
It’s better than them going out somewhere to do it. They need to learn to drink responsibly and do it safely.
Yeah I’m gonna catch a felony charge so somebody else’s kids can have fun…
Edit because I want to bring home my point: there is a big difference between teaching your kid how to responsibly handle alcohol and enabling kids who are not your own to drink at your house. It is not paradoxical to say
Mature teens and young adults should know how to responsibly use alcohol:
And
Legal adults should never encourage or enable underage drinking from children who are not their own at their house.
Some parents did this back when I was in high school. The police were called and the parents were arrested.
They also tried claiming the whole “We’re just trying to be safe” thing, but it didn’t work.
Fuck the police
Yeah cool thing goober I’m still not getting a felony charge so you can drink at my house
This is so true. My dad taught be to be responsible with alcohol, and he did it without throwing a rager and then begging a bunch of teens to be responsible and practice temperence.
We just had a beer and watched some kung fu movies and talked about it. My kids will get the same treatment.
I feel like everyone knows of some dumb parent because they threw a rager, because “If they’re going to drink, they should do it in a safe space,” and then got the book thrown at them over an underage DUI case. I’d argue that a party is an inherently unsafe space for kids to learn about alcohol. There’s too much going on, too much peer pressure, and too much alcohol to be yourself and learn your limit.
Reminds me of this masterpiece
Problem is it looks worse to a judge if the adults were present at the party. It’s liability.
Perhaps the more disturbing thing is they lack the drive to break the rules.
We hosted parties for our daughters when they were teens (15-16). They weren’t big - maybe 8 to 10 friends. No alcohol, but lots of food off the grill. On occasion, we let them drink alcohol with us after they turned 18 at home with no friends, which is legal in our state.
I’m relatively young and yeah, I barely ever party. Never did it much as a teen, and I do it even less as an adult in my 20’s. It’s just not all that fun to me.
As an avid fan of festivals and raves, house parties are kind of boring man. I would suggest giving a good club a try and maybe working your way up to a rave or fest.
Whole different ball game, you’re there with hundreds to thousands of people in good spirits with the same mindset. I’ve met really cool and genuine people at these places, people you’d never hope to meet out in “the real world”
No, I get you. I’m sure that’s fun. I mean, I have awesome fun when I go to concerts I like, like Green Day or Gorillaz (yeah, I like old music lol).
But if you don’t do drugs, and you don’t even enjoy electronic music all that much, I don’t really see much point to raves, clubs and that stuff. Especially if most of your friends aren’t into that stuff either.
Drugs are definitely part of the fun (really they are common at any kind of public music event), but if you don’t like electronic music, you probably aren’t going to like raves even on them.
You could go to concerts then? Also, electronic music festivals aren’t the only kind of festival out there. There are also metal festivals, rock festivals, hip-hop, etc. I’ve been to a good bit of those myself, I actually also am a big fan music like green day and gorillaz, first time I ever saw gorillaz was at a festival.
Ah yeah, I go to concerts pretty often. Radiohead, Green Day, Gorillaz, plenty of local rock, jazz and hip hop bands. But I don’t really count that as “partying” as I usually go for the music first.
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I’m gonna go off on a limb and say that person’s above 21. Some of us just ain’t into that much.
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There’s a difference between hanging out with friends and partying
Why do you have to party to have friendships?
Their point is that not everyone is into partying. Some of us would rather kick back at a friends/our house and chill. I don’t need to drink to have fun.
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There’s so much more to friendship than just partying
I’m 25, so nah, not really. I enjoy spending time with my friends, but more like, going to get coffee or playing tabletop games. Maybe playing online games and cursing each other out.
But I can’t remember the last time I went to a bar or a club. I was probably in college. I don’t find much interesting to do when I go to places like that, so I just leave work early and go hang out at my friend’s place with a couple beers, or something. We rarely go out to clubs at all anymore.
That’s you but there are plenty of us where the novelty of binge drinking got immature fast. Don’t get me wrong, I partied in my 20s but the way I carried myself when drunk, the dumb shit I did, the after effects of the hangover… definitely gets old. (If I could go back I think of would have impressed far more people, and more girls, had I not had a goal to get shitfaced with everyone and I don’t even consider myself a sloppy drunk.)
Also, at a certain age I think a lot of people realize that your drinking buddies are not necessarily your friends. When drinking is removed as your common activity it surprising how little you have in common with some people and who is really willing to stick their neck out for you in a time of need.
As a parent, my goal is to never let my kids see me drunk/buzzed. I want them to know they can always depend on me, and that I’m always clear headed and in a mental state to provide whatever might be needed (unexpected trip to the ER anyone?). Always on duty.
Oh no. Where I live we do party. Me and my friend groups meet up almost every week to party and almost always we randomly meet new people. It’s lots of fun.
Oh yeah totally, I agree
My kids are just winding down a ‘first week of school party’ at our house. I’m not sure how many teens we peaked at… Around 12 14-17 yr olds. This is a semi constant around here, roughly 1-2x a month for most of the year. I’m sure at some point it’ll happen without us here.
Bigger problem is mfs just spend the weekend braindead doomscrolling the internet and don’t even want to have parties.
Oh. Hi. That’s me, right now.
Good for them.
Staying safe indoors instead of dying prematurely from alcohol poisoning and stupidity.
Ah yes, having a party = poisoning yourself with alcohol to the point of dying. We end up killing at least 1 ever year at my birthday party but that’s the price I’m willing to pay for a good rager.
Dionysus famously demands sacrifice
Lemmy.world is a website for ages 13 and up. Please use it under the supervision of your legal guardians.
I’ll try but my parents are pretty dead at this point.
Wow you sure seem fun to be around.
Why not have weed at the party instead?
I guess cause when I was growing up nobody ever wanted to share and it was expensive. I wonder if that’s changed?
If you don’t want to drink, that’s totally fine and entirely your choice. It’s not for everyone and some people simply should not consume alcohol (eg, those with a history of substance abuse problems or anger issues).
But having fun at parties with alcohol is a pretty typical part of growing up. There’s a middle ground between “staying home alone” vs “dying prematurely”. You can drink enough to have fun without it being at risk of killing you. It’s not healthy to bing drink, to be clear, but personally, I found it worth it every now and then to have some good times with friends. Just be mindful of your limits, hangout with people you trust, and always have a sober ride home.
Do stupid stuff is part of growing up, don’t miss that
Here is the chronically online, antisocial teen with autism who’s afraid of parties:
lol I’m a nearly 40 year old married man with three kids and a successful career. But, god I wish!
Maybe, just maybe, the issue is the parents not letting go and not accessibility to cameras.
Before cameras everyone had a window granny who reported everything happening in the neighborhood. And even then, parents knew what was happening. The goal was that kids would fear that the parents would discover something is amiss and clean after themselves.
Back when I was a teen, my folks would go away for a month and a half every summer and leave us kids behind (we were teenagers and didn’t want to go) and obviously we would throw parties. One year I had cleaned the house really well and thought there was no way they would know. My dad came home and that’s how I learned he keeps two cold beers in the fridge for when he gets home. And they were gone.
He wasn’t mad we threw parties, he wasn’t mad we were underage drinking, but he was mad his two cold getting-home beers had been drank and not replaced. And that’s how I found out my parents are humans who knew we were having parties and they didn’t care as long as we didn’t die or mess with their shit.
The point isn’t that they don’t have fun. Its that they clean up so good we don’t have to clean shit when we get home.
That’s how it worked before the cameras.
lol, never thought of it that way
My parents knew I had had a house party because it was too clean, they said I wouldn’t have cleaned if I wasnt trying to hide something. They were right tbh
They spoil it for the rest of us. You don’t say that shit. You make a sly remark on how exceptionally clean everything is and carry on with your day. Smh
Maybe they knew from something else and just told that to avoid me knowing what it really was 🤔
That and with the parents working from home, how often are they out of the house long enough to throw a party or even raid the alcohol cabinet?
turn off the wifi. boom no more ring and nest cams. problem solved.
Teenagers don’t listen to this parent in disguise. Most modern cameras and record everything locally and/or viacloud. You’d physically have to go to each camera and unplug if they aren’t already battery operated AND kill the wifi.
If just just turn off the wifi they’ll record them just upload everything when they get internet again lol.
Good luck trying to explain that away to your parents though lol.
Unless you running an NVR, do not believe many cloud based cameras will record locally. Fewer would have batteries. I think some doorbell cameras may send still photos with motion that may get send on reconnection. The video is likely lost.
I install commercial cameras and nearly all have capability for SD cards and local storage but never had a need to utilize that.
The cheap Wyze cameras I’ve seen everyone buy lately store locally and have cloud options. They’re both usable at the same time too.
They’re aren’t in any government approved lists but most poors don’t give a shit if the CPC is watching them fuck in the living room occasionally when the kids are sleeping lol.
https://reviewed.usatoday.com/smarthome/content/wyze-cam-v3-review
It is fairly cheap option to have some local storage although it won’t have a great deal of time. Day or two. But for cloud storage that is perfect as it can handle then brief internet outages without losing any video. Just might be delayed.
I thought about installing it in our commercial cameras by default. Had a client get their NVR stolen and having local camera storage would have given them two days of recorded video. Was certain it was and inside job or past worker so it could have been effective.
My dad did have cameras all over the house while I was in high school. But there weren’t any in my room so we could hang out in there. There also weren’t any in the bathroom so we could stash the alcohol in there and just pour it into cups.
Both of these required a parent not that dedicated to actually stopping his kids from partying though. But a parent sufficiently dedicated was always going to be able to find out somehow.
Did you have to, like, sneak people in through a window or something? Surely there were cameras at the normal entrances. Or were the number of guests not an issue, just the alcohol?
The latter for sure. And to be fair, my experience wasn’t identical to what the post was asking. It wasn’t so much a house party as it was having ~10 friends over. And my dad was often home, just already asleep. I definitely wouldn’t have tried to have a legitimate house party with the cameras around.
Just unplug the router and no internet access. ;)
No idea why the internet goes out every time you guys are out of town. So weird!!
Lol yeah so weird.
Good luck in my house, server is in a locked room and only way they can kill my cameras is by unplugging for 6 hours so the ups is depleted. Checkmate kids.
But do you have kids?
Yes
Color me surprised
They’re also in a locked room. The parents are looking for them.
What UPS do you have that lasts 6 hours? Legitimately asking.
The madlad probably has like 30 of them daisy chained.
It’s 2 100 ah sealed batteries I wired up to my ups
That doesn’t solve anything. Your neighbors have security cameras too. They can share then with your parents. Your parents can watch video from other cameras if the neighborhood is on the same brand/network.
This varies with location. Our nearest neighbors are just shy on a mile away. Their cameras aren’t much good.
…but then no Internet access :(
No Internet access = no music… But even that’s not true cause everyone got mobil data etc
:/
Or be like me, one of the few ppl still collecting music and storing it digitally. Whenever we lose internet it’s fine since I still have my local library of music, movies, and tv shows that I can play on any TV or device in the house. Just don’t shut off the router, unplug the internet and your good.
Thats the way to go! What would you listen to if YouTube and Spotify just dissapear tomorrow?
I am the weird one here but I am the only one of everyone I know who doesn’t use Spotify or any music service. I got a 6 month free trial years ago and I guess I was just so set on how I look up music and discover it that Spotify was getting in the way of that and so I barely used it.
I just looked and currently have 156k songs, 13k albums, and 3.2k artists to choose from so I got some choices! Been doing this since early to mid 2000’s. If I had to pick right now probably Blur since I’ve been on a Blur kick recently with the new album released.
Ye. But after 6 months trial, did you have to like cancel it or do You owe* 100s of dollars to Spotify now?
We’re all dieing to know…
Thx
No I just canceled it the month before it expired and it was completely free. I think the standard is 3 months but I believe I got this for a bigger than normal purchase like a new phone maybe? Figured it was worth trying out. I think the only requirement was the account used couldn’t have used or been signed up for pro prior.
This assumes you have cell access. Not everywhere in the world does.
This assumes you’re alive. Not everyone that’s lived is still alive.
See how stupid that sounds?
You sound like my bf lol. Internet goes out and he can’t do anything, meanwhile I got my locally stored music/shows and single player games
The kids actually figured out how to log in and disable the cameras or mute notifications and then delete memory 🥴
Let the kids have fun, what’s wrong with these parents?
Dog you’re not even getting started on how hard it is to be social as a kid/teen nowadays. Parents are spending so much more time with and around their kids too, because it’s necessary when kids can’t walk anywhere and have no skate parks or malls to go to anyway.
A neighbor would just tell on you. I got busted by random neighborhood parents skipping school or sneaking out.
You think this isn’t the main use case?
Parents but this shit and trick tend into thinking it’s about security from the outside. Adults know that was just a fringe possibility, it’s all about curbing house parties.
Now shut up before they see this.
Parents but this shit and trick tend into thinking
lolwut
Fuck autocorrect fucked me hard. I have no idea what I was trying to say.
yeah I think your phone had a stroke there lol
Pretty sure every word in that was wrong 😅
