• underisk@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    3 months ago

    The problem with violent action is that, to have a chance to succeed, you need a critical mass of support. Not like 50% or anything, but enough that you can’t be easily quelled. The only way you build that support is by suggesting violent resistance to people who scoff at you and accuse you of being unserious until the last straw finally breaks their back and you don’t sound so ridiculous anymore.

    • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Oh, like, idk, say… 3% of the population or something?

      Crazy how fast one can start sounding just like the people they oppose, isn’t it?

      That being said, those sorts of people are well organized, international, willing to commit violence, dramatically outnumber any counter-groups, and have made serious and dramatic inroads into not just political discourse but into politics itself.

      In terms of violent revolutionaries, there are a lot of them, they’re well armed, they’re fairly well-connected and organized, they’ve managed to recruit across all classes, especially the working classes, and they’re definitely not leftist.

      • underisk@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        Drawing a parallel between violent revolution of oppressed people and virulently racist bigots because they also use percentages to decribe a thing is asinine. Fuck.off.

        • Soulg@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          3 months ago

          Probably shouldn’t be doing the same thing that they’re doing then huh

          You cannot call them evil then do the exact same thing but YOU are just because YOU think so. They’ll tell you that exact same thing.

          • underisk@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            In order to be doing the “same thing” I would have to be suggesting violence as a means to establish a white ethnostate, dipshit.

          • Cethin@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            Evil people also eat food, just like you do. Is that why they’re evil? Obviously not. The thing that makes them evil is their motives.

            Fighting someone to help people and fighting someone to oppress someone are both fighting, but one is for good and one is for evil.

          • dubious@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            3 months ago

            you’re fucking clueless. this isn’t about moral high grounds. this is about solutions that prevent untold amounts of suffering because the idiotic half of the population was allowed to operate unchecked.

            • Soulg@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              Seems like you’re the clueless one if you think I don’t know that, but also violence is bad and wrong and you’re bad and wrong for supporting it. You’re just as bad as the rest.