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Microsoft has removed Windows Mixed Reality from Windows 11. With Windows 11 24H2, the latest major version of Microsoft’s PC operating system, you can no longer use a Windows MR headset in any way - not even on Steam. This includes all the Windows MR headsets from Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Samsung, including HP’s Reverb G2, released in 2020.
UploadVR tested Windows 11 24H2 with a Reverb G2 and found the above notice. Microsoft confirmed to UploadVR that this is an intentional removal when it originally announced the move back in December. In August 3.49% of SteamVR users were using a Windows MR headset, roughly 80,000 people. If they install Windows 11 24H2, their VR headset will effectively become a paperweight. “Existing Windows Mixed Reality devices will continue to work with Steam through November 2026, if users remain on their current released version of Windows 11 (version 23H2) and do not upgrade to this year’s annual feature update for Windows 11 (version 24H2).” The death of Windows MR headsets comes on the same week Microsoft revealed that HoloLens 2 production has ended, and that software support for the AR headset will end after 2027.
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Feel like there should be legislation that required companies the sunset support for recently released hardware they should be required to release the software to the open community.
While that would be pretty nice, there are working open source drivers made by the community already. They have issues and only really work on linux though. lvra has plenty of info about this stuff.
Great to know. Next build will be steam is was wondering if there was something that would allow me to continue to use what I have already. Thanks!
Fucking yikes. I almost got a reverb g2, I’m so glad I went with an index instead. Not that I’m planning to ever upgrade to windows 11, but I’m still safe if they try to nuke it in Windows 10 as well.
Not that I’m planning to ever upgrade to windows 11
Does the reverb work on Linux? Otherwise, I think you have 1 year.
There’s a community driven effort to get it working, called Monado. To my knowledge they reverse engineered controller tracking and got to some extend room tracking working, but nothing production ready
Right. Forgot monado.
I have an Index. Not a Reverb. I was saying I’m glad I got an Index instead of a Reverb.
sorry, forgot the first sentence while replying to the second. 😅
As a former Reverb G2 v2 owner (who recently sold his setup at fire sale prices because of this sunsetting by MS) I am very disappointed by this move. Why brick a bunch of perfectly functional devices and create a massive amount of e-waste in the process?
Why not just freeze WMR in place, stop feature development, but keep the functionality around? I can’t imagine bug fixing and driver updates cost Microsoft any substantial amount of resources, given how they pretty much dropped doing any of that after 2022.
It makes no sense to me and feels like management wanting to make a statement, more than a reasonable business decision. Especially since this move directly conflicts their stated sustainability goals and directives.
It’s almost like the company is trying really hard to wash their hands clean of the HoloLens exec they fired for misconduct a while ago in the most scorched earth way possible or something.
I bought a second hand HP Reverb early last year. Luckily I managed to sell it and get a Quest 3 without losing too much. Honestly the Quest just has a much better user experience and it’s worked perfectly for Simracing when used wired.
losing much
except all your data to facebook
I lost that nearly 20 years ago.
Get a pihole, or Adguard home and block all the Facebook nonsense. That’s what I did with my quest 2. I’m also planning on getting a gdpr request through when I get around to it.
Already have pihole installed on my server. It’s more that I still have messenger/my fb account is deactivated rather than deleted. So meta has my data regardless.
Shame they got you by the balls like that. F
Windows 10 2021 LTSC IoT is supposed to be supported up to 10 years. So that’s 2032 for security updates. If this is true then that would be my strategy for keeping WMR in use.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-iot-enterprise-ltsc-2021
Does it work on LTSC? It did not work on LTSB—there was no support for Windows Store or whatever is required to install WMR software.
It’s very easy to add Windows store to the iot version. Not sure about WMR yet
Feudalism
All they had to do was leave it alone. Wtf.
