Critics say the US rushed to evacuate its citizens in Israel last year. For Lebanon, the response has been much slower.

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    No, it’s not. Let’s imagine a future world where to settle the conflict Israel agrees to withdraw to the green line, endorse a fully UN recognized and supported independent Palestinian nation, pay reparations to Palestine, aid in its rebuilding if permitted, and sign a 100 year peace treaty with all adjacent nations. Accepting this hypothetical, would Israel be safe? Why or why not?

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      Withdrawing to the Green Line is impossible now with the settlements dividing the West Bank into hundreds of isolated enclaves. You cannot forcibly displace the over half a million settlers.

      This is exactly why multiple Israeli Historians have discussed how the realities of the Apartheid and Settlements have made any actual Two-State solution not viable. If you read any of those three links, they discuss exactly that.

      Zionism, with its Settler Colonialism for an Ethnostate, is incompatible with coexistance and equality.

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          You’re avoiding the reality of the situation. I don’t support the existence of any Ethnostate. In a Secular Bi-National One State, yes. You’re underlying assumption that all this violent resistance comes from Antisemitism instead of Anti-zionism, is wrong.

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              It’s very obvious what you are trying to get at. That doesn’t make it the reality.

              Adi Callai, an Israeli, does a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized (see 29:01) by Zionism during its history.

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                No, the fact they refer to their casualties as ‘martyrs’ does. You can stop with the copypasta. We both know you know what is really going on.

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                  A martyr refers to anyone who dies from the Israeli occupation. The Apartheid and Genocide is what is really going on, I’m not sure you get that. It’s very clear that you don’t care for sources to learn more about the conflict, to the extent that you won’t even consider the works of Israelis that may contradict your beliefs

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      I mean I’m not sure why you only value Israeli security in this arrangement, but presumably yes they would be. At least nobody would be launching rocket attacks.