Let hear them conjects

      • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com
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        I mean its hard because if I had an example of an absolute truth then that would be proof of it. I could make an argument for existence but still hard to say I would meet the absolute requirement of it.

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          2 months ago

          What led you to use the example of absolute truth in the first place?

          Its sort of more or an abstract noun rather than a specific case example one can engage with, no?

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            Just that is was the answer to the question posed. Im sorta obsessed with truth and believe there is absolute truth but can’t prove it.

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              I mean, would you consider something like “if X is true, then X is true” to be an absolute truth?

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                I mean I see what your getting at. The concept holds regardless of the existence of X but its rather meta. Im looking for something more about our reality. I mean absolute truth exists in terms of the words absolute and truth exist and can be put together as the concept but not with any basis in reality. Is it really a truth then? Superman exists as a concept for the writer and in the readers imagination but the character certainly fictional in our experiences. So you can say he is a truth in that he exists in concept but he certainly is not real.

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                  2 months ago

                  So you’re looking for absolute truths about our physical reality? You’re right that it’s impossible then, other than tautological or trivial truths like the above that rely on a conditional (“if that box really exists, then it really exists”). The possibility of reality being simulated, Boltzmann brains, Last Wednesdayism, etc. preclude unqualified absolute truths about our physical reality because our observations cannot be truly verified.

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                    yes this does seem to be the sticking point. Its why its hard to determine anything outside of the existence of ones perceived reality in relation to ones perception of it. That actually though is itself a pretty huge thing for me. The think therefor I am thing basically. Would be the closest I could come to an absolute truth.