Vegan mac made with 🌱cheddar & 🌱 mozzarella shreds, bbq tofu and spinach salad with 🌱bleu cheese dressing

  • arcane potato (she/they)@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
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    21 days ago

    Hi and welcome! Thanks for your posts - the food looks amazing!

    Can I ask you to please not use brand names when describing your food? It’s one of the rules here. No issues with posting food made with the products, but we don’t want to promote brands. Thanks!

    • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      21 days ago

      Question: if I’m explaining I made something with beyond beef, or used Miyokos cashew mozzarella, etc. would that be a violation? I don’t want to promote the brand, but I also know brands are not at all interchangeable, Miyokos is going to be different than Violife, and Beyond is going to be different than Gardein, so if I want to share a recipe sometimes it seems like brand has to be specified to be reproducible. That said, I’m 100% on board with the anti-corporate mission and I don’t want to promote any brands in particular (I see it as an unfortunate side-effect in my case, if that makes sense).

      • arcane potato (she/they)@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
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        21 days ago

        Hi!

        Here is my take: this is not intended to be a recipe site, it’s intended to share what you have cooked. Maybe posts with that level of detail would be better suited to c/recipes ?

        I’m not trying to discourage people from sharing how they cooked something in this community if that’s what they would like to do. I am suggesting this as a way to keep this space brand free while not discouraging your contributions.

        What do you think?

        • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          21 days ago

          I was asking more in the context of responding to a question, if someone is asking for how I made something whether it’s OK to mention brands in my responding comments.

          I don’t mention brands in original posts, that’s easy for me (I’m usually just sharing photos, not recipes).

            • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              21 days ago

              kk, thanks for the clarification - so is the rule primarily about the title, or about the description in the original post then? That makes a lot more sense to me, esp. the title because it’s visible from a front-page and is more at risk of being an advertisement.

              • arcane potato (she/they)@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
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                21 days ago

                I wish I could give you a super clear answer but that’s not realistic for me lol

                Maybe this would help: The reason I said something here was because I saw someone who I thought might just have not seen the rules. I’m not trying to give people a hard time.

                I don’t think I see an argument for it being beneficial to the community to name brands in the title or body of the OP, unprompted. If someone asks, that’s at least a prompt that makes sense to me.

                Unsolicited personal opinion: I do think it’s important for people to understand that some ‘vegan’ products were developed through direct harm to animals. It’s good to have a little think about what you are choosing to buy and why.

                • dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  20 days ago

                  That’s OK, I think your answer is pretty clear.

                  I’m an ethical vegan, I should say, so I treat my veganism as a form of boycott to create pressure and deny profits from animal agriculture, particularly large-scale, cruel industrial animal ag. So I have hang-ups about lots of vegan products and the animal deaths and harm involved.

                  Gardein especially bothers me because they are a brand owned by ConAgra (one of the major conglomerates responsible for animal ag operations), so I feel like buying vegan products from them is essentially bypassing the ethical boycott entirely. It’s less relevant to me that the product I buy is not made of animals or whether I am eating animal products (i.e. the diet aspect is irrelevant), and it’s much more important to me that I engage in a critical consumerism that denies companies money for their unethical practices.

                  To that end, I consider labor concerns and human suffering as just as legitimate or even more important (considering human capacity for suffering, and humans are animals as well of course) as concerns about the suffering of non-human animals.

                  Admittedly this led me to some extremes like refusing to use a car in a very car-centric place that consistently landed me in emergency rooms, and I’ve been sorta de-radicalizing since a particularly bad time that I was hit by a car. I’ve been trying to put my moral feelings into perspective more.

                  I certainly think most if not all consumption can be tied to an extreme form of wrong-doing, and what-aboutism is a fallacy that doesn’t give us an excuse for not taking seriously those harms. That said, I have not been able to live as extremely as I would like to mitigate my personal participation in those harms, and the moderate actions I took ended not just in extreme discomfort and inconvenience but significant and permanent harm to me.

                  So I am trying to give myself a little grace and recognize that my responsibility as an individual consumer is proportionate, and that I am not singularly responsible for the harms of an industry I did not create nor do I support. So now I try to do what I can where it is helpful, but to engage in self-care as well because otherwise I seem to lean towards dying, which apparently causes other people distress in my life.