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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, “Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND.”

  • uis@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    Construction, trades, and utility works still need vehicles to work on and create infrastructure out and indoors.

    That didn’t stop people before cars. Back then people built small railways if we are talking about construction.

    farmers and ranchers that still need vehicles.

    They need specialized equipment. They need heavy equipment.

    That being said most of those vehicles will be electric soon.

    A car is a car. Another motor doesn’t turn car into magic.

    • SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      That didn’t stop people before cars. Back then people built small railways if we are talking about construction.

      We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it weren’t for vehicles like mine keeping up the internet infrastructure up.

      There’s also no fucking way you going to put train tracks everywhere to keep up infrastructure. That sounds really fucking stupid

      They need specialized equipment. They need heavy equipment.

      This statement makes me feel like I’m responding to a 14 yr old with no life experience. Not even going to bother answering it.

      A car is a car. Another motor doesn’t turn car into magic.

      Electric vehicles have no emissions so there’s no reason people can’t use them specifically for work.

      PS: You can respond but I’m not going to bother with you. There’s no point in having a discussion with someone with illrational and militant about their ideals

      • uis@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        There’s also no fucking way you going to put train tracks everywhere to keep up infrastructure.

        There’s also no fucking way you going to put ashphalt everywhere to keep up infrastructure.

        That sounds really fucking stupid

        Yep. Didn’t stop from building roads.

        Electric vehicles have no emissions so there’s no reason people can’t use them specifically for work.

        You are correct, vehicles. Car is not the only type of vehicle, it’s one of many. And what I was saying emissions is not the only problem of car.

        You can respond but I’m not going to bother with you

        Ok.

        There’s no point in having a discussion with someone with illrational and militant about their ideals

        Indeed. See, there are topics we agree upon.

    • jj4211@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      That didn’t stop people before cars.

      Standard of living was much much worse back then.

      They need specialized equipment.

      They also need to get to stores and see friends and family. Asking people to go back to insular homebound living for farm living seems unreasonable.

      Another motor doesn’t turn car into magic.

      However, if electric, it’s no exhaust, options for flexible energy sources, and hopefully long lived and recyclable batteries. If you are more upset about cars getting in the way of walking, then enjoy the walkable communities that exist today. Unfortunately they tend to be pricey.

      • uis@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        They also need to get to stores

        Well, ok. On farms cars at least make some sense.

        However, if electric, it’s no exhaust, options for flexible energy sources, and hopefully long lived and recyclable batteries.

        Yes, but they still take space, instane car infrastructure is still there and crashes still happen.