Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.
Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.
Original post:
My (removed) comment:
And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.
I just don’t really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing… Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.
It’s not a “community”, it’s one person making all the posts because I guess they wanted to make hating Linux their entire personality. 🤷
I mean, you do see the irony of saying that on a website filled with Linux-crazed people, right…?
I’d argue dedicating your personality to hating something is much weirder than being a fanboy of it, especially when that thing is a piece of technology nobody is forcing you to use.
I don’t see irony there. I think calling this FOSS community ‘filled with Linux-crazed people’ is a stretch, but even then, it’s very different to:
spoiler'd for long image
or even just hating a niche product whatsoever. It’s not like Linux is EEE’ing or being invasive, so it’s hard to equivocate being a passionate fan to being a passionate hater.
There was a time when there was an annual “Linux Sucks” presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).
I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.
But as others have pointed out, that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves.
I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken
But isn’t that every linux forum?
Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn’t perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.
I think we’d all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it’s fine as is.
To be fair, Windows has its own jank. As someone who is forced to use Windows 11 for work, I’m much happier putting up with the minimum Linux jank one experienced compared to the Windows jank.
If any of that made sense.
There is a guy that is a Linux dev, that maintains* a list of what sucks about linux, its very comprehensive–but a bit dated. He alao has same for Windows. I will have to look for the link
" that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves."
Is it though? Here’s a screenshot from [email protected] showing 2 other contributors (and this isn’t chat; I’m not here to ‘hang out’).
It’s also new and trending. Even on Reddit’s r/linuxsucks, I was a prolific poster, and continue as such on r/desktoplinuxsucks.
Maybe just admit being butt-hurt or mute, because you aren’t the intended audience and it brings you discomfort. -Thanks
Lol that’s actually hilarious. So but, why not comment on your posts too? Each post is just sitting there with an empty comments section.
I got into mostly posting rather that commenting because of the hostility of Linux evangelists / brigaders. -Posts can’t yield negative karma on reddit. My comment is typically in the form of the title or in the customization / creation of the meme.
Maybe you’re still thinking back to when it was new; there are some posts from today (or a matter of a couple hours) with 3 comments already. It’s funny how people are criticizing it when there’s some adjustment (getting the right audience / parcipation) to be done in the face of a brigading / evangelizing issue from people it’s not meant for. I didn’t bring a community, and I’m not going to recruit for here from the reddit subs.
It’s unlikely that anyone is going to come along and contribute anywhere near as much as I do. -I don’t see the problem with that. Progress is happening and we are continually on the trending lists. IMO it’s working.
I’m all for it. All publicity is good publicity in this space. Open criticism is the first step to better open software.
Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.
Sounds like they’ve done you a favour. Now you don’t have to see their random hater circlejerk community again.
deleted by creator
Oh, maybe. Is that how it works?
I wish I could just mute it for them. -Apparently not an option.
deleted by creator
Not content with unasked for evangelizing in Windows communities and posts, this Stallman’s Witness tries their hand in an even less welcome locale.
Injured by the failure of their attempt, they seek sympathy back in friendlier climes.
That is indeed Don Quixote and I believe you’ll find that he is tilting at that windmill
It’s clearly a giant.
That whole community is just one guy posting memes. Some are funny but mostly its just odd how much he hates Linux.
Whatever :)
It’s not satire?
No, it’s one person who is so unironically salty that they post memes about how much they hate Linux several times a day.
Everyone has a hobby 🙃
I don’t understand why so many people take the existence of linuxsucks communities so personally, the reddit version has more linux users defending it than actual hate, but that one was more meant as a “legitimate grievances against linux” community as opposed to what the lemmy version seems to be.
Just block and ignore like anything else. Its okay if there are people that don’t like the thing you like.
I didn’t take it personally, just confused and amused at the situation
install windows then
No u
Is this a good guide?
Damn, the down votes. People really don’t get sarcasm on the internet eh?
Hummm… Guess you’re to sensible? I mean I’m die hard linux lover for 3 years now and will never switch back to Windows… EVER!
However, I found some of those posts quite funny !
Some of them are funny indeed
My guess: the mod is sittin there posting memes on his gentoo-machine and laughing his ass of, because someone’s taking his community serious.
Pretty accurate meme though.
Yeah… I am in my Arch comfort zone, till I was forced to move on as the newest kernels of Arch triggered kernel Panics at my Starlite V device. Even the LTS version (and for some weird reason the rt kernel was the only one working without panics).
So someone said “Use NixOS, its great”… it felt cool at beginning, but sucked very soon as everything should be written into stone if you want changes on your system, and then reboot, because the switch command didn’t really trigger enough changes. Netbeans was without Maven till I rebooted. I thought I sucked at adding it properly. Frustrating it was.
Then I tried MX Linux, just to realize that Debian has Ancient packages with many many bugs, like Okular having a broken Pinch-Zoom which is fixed after 23.31 or smth. Debian had version 22 of Okular. And I disliked that MX Linux used Plasma 5…
Another one recommends Void Linux, Gentoo, KDE Neon, OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Holy fuck pls filter it by Systemd only Operating Systems. (But still cool having lots od Linux users in my university group)
I finally decided to Install Kubuntu and actually… it feels like it will last forever (till a new Ubuntu Update comes in and destroys itself by its own Updating system. It never worked for me)
Gentoo has systemd instructions right alongside openrc through the whole installation handbook. Pretty sure opensuse is systemd also.
Yup XD
Unrelated but I got banned from the atheist memes community for calling one of the mods memes a boomer Facebook meme.
As an atheist, I cringe at nearly every post I see from that community. Makes me want to punch teenage neckbeard me in the face
Same. I imagine it’s how most Christians feel about their loudest supporters as well
It turns out, mods are gods.
Relevant discussion: [email protected] mod silently bans people from their community for disagreeing, and tries to hide the comments from being seen in the modlog.
Wow 😲
Yeah. I found that post after I, too, was banned.
It’s like going to a vegan community saying “meat isn’t so bad”. You’re obviously not going to get good responses.
We all thought the community was satire or at least self deprecative humor.
For this exact reason i feel the fediverse should operate on #hashtags and the user should subscribe to their mods who will mark content for exclusion and filtration.
Meaning that instead of a ultimatum users can participate regardless of if bad mods ruin a community as per reddit /r/linux being ruined by loco mods.
This fiefdom format where topics are arbitrated and drum headded by fief lords is archaic and antiquated.
When the wrong man uses the right means, then the right means work in the wrong way.
Its our job to create systems that prevent this as much as possible through good design.
That’s how aether works kind of.
It’s P2P/decentralised rather than federated.
Anyone can make a community. With enough participation in a community one can become a mod. Mods can be impeached by vote of active participants.
Anyone can see nod actions and anyone can decide to disable the actions of any mod.
I love the system, I was active there before moving to Lemmy. I wish it had taken off/absorbed some of the Reddit fallout rather than Lemmy.
AFAIK it is not maintained or at least updated much less frequently than Lemmy/ActivityPub.
It’s the same argument I’ve heard about the “complexity” of Mastodon: too many choices, which is I guess why people largely stopped going to websites outside the major social networks. Monopoly over competition, it’s like everyone is pining for a monarchy.
Users say they want options until they receive way too many options
Yeah, that guy’s not joking.
It’s not some kayfabe act. He is sincere in all of that posturing assholery.
Block and move on.
Seems like a year ago he was actually using Linux himself. Wondering what happened that made him feel so butthurt.
