An article about Finnish cuisine exists. Because as a concept, we can talk about it.
But in the sense of there being restaurants for it, like Italian, Mexican, Greek, Indian, Chinese, etc cuisines, I would bet quite a lot that you can’t find one single restaurant dedicated to “Finnish cuisine” outside of Finland.
It’s just that that’s not how cuisine is usually understood. But like I said, I wasn’t trying to change your opinion, just noted that as usually defined it does exist.
I don’t know if you think the colloquial use aligns more with what you said, but in Finnish cuisine is just “keittiö” (as in suomalainen keittiö) or ruokakulttuuri. English word is much the same in that it actually doesn’t just mean something fancy, even though as a French origin word it can seem like a fancy word.
I’m just going with that. It’s not a personal preference thing. I like Finnish food but it doesn’t really matter to me if the term cuisine was reserved for just fancy. I was just saying.
It’s about the concept of a “cuisine”. I’m sure you understand what is meant by it.
I don’t believe there are any “Finnish restaurants”. There are restaurants which say they serve traditional food, in Finland, sure. But I’m quite sure no other country has a “Finnish restaurant” and that literally no-one ever has asked their friend “hey d’you wanna go out for some Finnish?”
You can like the food, I’m not trying to make you enjoy something less. I’m pointing out Finland lacks food culture, as sorely as it lacks other forms of culture.
It’s about the concept of a “cuisine”. I’m sure you understand what is meant by it.
No I understand, I’m just saying how you define it doesn’t really follow how it is commonly defined. Which is fine, but again, something to keep in mind.
I don’t believe there are any “Finnish restaurants”.
There are. Search for “suomalainen ravintola”.
But I’m quite sure no other country has a “Finnish restaurant”
Those exist too. Mostly to serve expatriates, but still.
I’m pointing out Finland lacks food culture
Well that’s an opinion you are sharing. And it’s fine to think so, it’s just not generally seen as true. Food culture is just what people are eating in certain areas and the traditional dishes associated with it. So of course Finland would have a food culture. You are defining it as something else, so by the way you are defining it it might be true.
I think the whole thing could be summed as you feeling that Finnish cuisine isn’t good or popular enough to warrant the term. It’s an opinion I’ve heard before, so I get it and I’m not arguing against it. I’m just saying on more objective way, the way the terms are defined, Finnish cuisine and food culture does exist. Doesn’t mean you are wrong but I just simply wanted to note that to make up “cuisine” there’s no high bar.
It wasn’t meant to change your opinions but to show that “Finnish cuisine” as a thing does exist.
No.
An article about Finnish cuisine exists. Because as a concept, we can talk about it.
But in the sense of there being restaurants for it, like Italian, Mexican, Greek, Indian, Chinese, etc cuisines, I would bet quite a lot that you can’t find one single restaurant dedicated to “Finnish cuisine” outside of Finland.
That’s what I was saying, the concept exists even if it’s not popular or good enough to warrant existing in your opinion.
The concept of say unicorns having sex existing doesn’t mean there are any unicorns anywhere having sex.
There are no Finnish restaurants.
In that sense, there is no “Finnish cuisine”.
It’s just that that’s not how cuisine is usually understood. But like I said, I wasn’t trying to change your opinion, just noted that as usually defined it does exist.
It definitely is, though.
You’re just refusing to use the colloquially definition, because you’re Finnish and Finnish dishes technically exist.
I don’t know if you think the colloquial use aligns more with what you said, but in Finnish cuisine is just “keittiö” (as in suomalainen keittiö) or ruokakulttuuri. English word is much the same in that it actually doesn’t just mean something fancy, even though as a French origin word it can seem like a fancy word.
I’m just going with that. It’s not a personal preference thing. I like Finnish food but it doesn’t really matter to me if the term cuisine was reserved for just fancy. I was just saying.
It’s not about fanciness.
It’s about the concept of a “cuisine”. I’m sure you understand what is meant by it.
I don’t believe there are any “Finnish restaurants”. There are restaurants which say they serve traditional food, in Finland, sure. But I’m quite sure no other country has a “Finnish restaurant” and that literally no-one ever has asked their friend “hey d’you wanna go out for some Finnish?”
You can like the food, I’m not trying to make you enjoy something less. I’m pointing out Finland lacks food culture, as sorely as it lacks other forms of culture.
No I understand, I’m just saying how you define it doesn’t really follow how it is commonly defined. Which is fine, but again, something to keep in mind.
There are. Search for “suomalainen ravintola”.
Those exist too. Mostly to serve expatriates, but still.
Well that’s an opinion you are sharing. And it’s fine to think so, it’s just not generally seen as true. Food culture is just what people are eating in certain areas and the traditional dishes associated with it. So of course Finland would have a food culture. You are defining it as something else, so by the way you are defining it it might be true.
I think the whole thing could be summed as you feeling that Finnish cuisine isn’t good or popular enough to warrant the term. It’s an opinion I’ve heard before, so I get it and I’m not arguing against it. I’m just saying on more objective way, the way the terms are defined, Finnish cuisine and food culture does exist. Doesn’t mean you are wrong but I just simply wanted to note that to make up “cuisine” there’s no high bar.
I hope that helps to settle this.