• normalexit@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    We need ranked choice voting, so you can vote for who you actually support without throwing your vote away.

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      47 minutes ago

      Which will never happen because the Republicans are dead set on never changing any system in any way that’s not directly in their benefit and no one else’s. Until that moment arrives, which is never, the only option is to pick your particular flavour of straight-up fascism (Republicans these days) or anything else (Democrats) in the party primaries.

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        One of the few advantages of our splintered system of states is that voting is done on a state level. We can implement ranked-choice voting in states where Republicans are weak, and in doing so, allow states that aren’t filled with fascists to choose between multiple non-fascist ideologies, instead of just fascists and ‘whoever is left’.

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    I will be voting for Kamala, because I do think it’s very important that Trump not get reelected. I hope she wins, but her winning alone will not be enough. We need to do a better job of figuring out why America is in the state that it is in, so that we can come up with ways to fix it (assuming it can be fixed).

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      Well, the absolute freedom of speech might be a thing to look at, as blatant lying and fascist rhetoric are not countered by more speech. Especially not if money = speech. As this gives the robber barons unfair advantage.

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      1 hour ago

      Absolutely. Voting is incredibly important, but on its own, it just buys time. Without time, we can do nothing - but if we are determined to do nothing, all the time in the world won’t save us.

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    In a democracy, you only get a voice if you vote. Voting IS the protest. When you don’t vote, or spoil your vote, you abdicate your voice.

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    In the current situation you could try to pretend that your vote is useful by not voting or voting third parties. But that it is not the reality of the consequences.

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    The idea that voting for a third-party candidate is somehow “helping” one of the major party candidates is based on the assumption that the third-party candidate’s voters would have otherwise voted for one of the major party candidates.

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    It’s because of this mentality that the US has this shitty two party system.

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    Blanket statements don’t work. How each state allocates votes to electoral college votes varies, and each states political leaning varies.

    There are times when not voting or voting third party effectively has no effect or the opposite effect.

    These oversimplified takes are tiring and pathetic.

    Get better arguments.

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      56 minutes ago

      Oh my God an image macro posted to the political memes board doesn’t have 60 pages of nuanced footnotes explaining how if you’re in Nebraska then your voting system works differently I’m going to literally shit my own pants out of rage

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      Ideally just get proportional representation with something like ranked choice voting and make it possible for 3rd party votes to count for something.

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      Explain how voting third party could have the “opposite effect”. Opposite of what?

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    Y’all’re some tired AF trolls, damn. Your boss orc not care that this isn’t that other place?