• doctorskull@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Both things can be true. America is proof of this. Our freedom is the reason we ended up with the stupid fascist president two times. We had a (mostly) free and fair election and we used that to be really, really dumb.

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      We had a (mostly) free and fair election

      Things said only by the the absolute muricabrained.

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        muricabrained

        Things said only by unserious people not worth trying to have a good faith conversation with 😅

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      Our freedom is the reason we ended up with the stupid fascist president two times.

      Nope. Blind belief that a 1700s system would adequately protect the will of the people against 21st century bad actors including the kinds of mega corporations that didn’t exist for decades if not a century after the founding.

      We had a (mostly) free and fair election

      Nope. Very far from it.