The Recording Industry Association of America wants Discord to close a server in which users generate AI deepfake tracks mimicking famous musicians

This is just one action in a coming conflict. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Does the record industry win and digital likenesses become outlawed, even taboo? Or does voice, appearance etc just become another sets of rights that musicians will have to negotiate during a record deal?

  • Janis@feddit.deEnglish
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    2 years ago

    There once upon a time was a band called moroon5 or sth that had no success with their mediocre band music. out of thin air and by accident one of their songs became a hit. and they felt they were artists. the wrote new songs that failed until it dawned the label: repeat. because people do not want art but emotions. like the olden tribal times. a feeling of group.

    yet everyone thinks they have a good taste in music and Oasis is art.you dont. and it is not.

    ban AI in medicine, because the work of a doctor is art compared to a moron5 song. make it copyright infringement if your AI solves excel shit as good as this one excel artist.

    there is no intellectual property on anything.

      • Janis@feddit.deEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        well so is cooking. knitting. telling a bed time story. if you want to call everything art.

        yet the definition of art includes the dire need of the artist to express sth that the artist feels is not or underrepresented. i read a philosopher says we should stop thinking of ourselves being so special. animals have feelings too, can do planning and even reasoning. is the birds song art. nope. it is not. so to me 100% of popular music is no art but an enjoyment for people. just like birds might enjoy some chirping.

        • luckystarr@feddit.deEnglish
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          2 years ago

          First I thought you were writing incoherently, but now I understand your point.

          I agree with what you said, that our “art” is most likely just something akin to bird song. Maybe even less or something else entirely.

          My point of view: Birds also have a “rebellious phase” where their songs differ from the songs of the general population. They are experimenting with new and unorthodox songs. These go away after they come of age and have to find a mate. My hypothesis (well, I’m no bird) is that there is a lot of emotional impact in these bird songs, whereas in some songs humans produce, much which previously required emotional awareness or emotional connection is now being replaced by templates, methods and formulas to make music. It’s some sort of depersonalization or objectification of the process of making music. This is probably what you meant by “it isn’t art anymore”.

          Did I get right, what you were trying to convey?

          • Janis@feddit.deEnglish
            1·
            2 years ago

            yeah my english is not good enough to explain things like that any better. sorry.

            i read deezer said customers 30 and older do not listen to new genres.(unless forced to find a mating partner) there is no interest in the usual music consumption toexperience art or even just change. it is the rhythm of your tribe. to feel comfy. to not feel alone. thats not art. why would anyone have the rights to the rhythm of anyones tribe. absurd. art is sth. else. and popular music is just the peak of what you described.