• BoobaAwooga@lemmynsfw.com
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    5 days ago

    Considering trump wants to stop helping Ukraine and pull out of nato Finland and Sweden are up next for the russian war

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      5 days ago

      I can’t believe the old cold war fears of a Russian invasion of Sweden are actually coming true. Thanks, America. Fucking hell.

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        5 days ago

        I’m getting a bit of whiplash here.

        The sentiment on Lemmy is usually that we should stop being the world police.

        Personally, I think that would make for a worse outcome and I guess we’re gonna find out.

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          When people want America to stop playing world police, they mean stop invading other countries, not stop supporting allied countries that are being invaded

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            I get the impression that people don’t like the fact our military is as big as it is. And “Why are you over here in $country?”

            If Trump actually executes what I believe most conservatives want and we pull back from being the world police, people will quickly realize the value. It just might be too late by that point.

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              That depends on the country and local experience with the US, which differes a lot. When it comes to Europe, US presence in NATO is crucial for the region’s security since WW2.

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                Besides what is required of us due to NATO (really REALLY hope we don’t pull out of that) we dot a lot of other ancillary force projection.

                This could be unfounded fears but I worry the US won’t be the ones who directly feel the affects if it does happen.

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              If the US is not going to protect its allies, then it should stop blocking its allies from getting nuclear bombs via the non proliferation treaty, or stop getting annoyed that the increases of GDP for the military aren’t spent in US defends contractors but in local ones.

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          Yeah they don’t want America to be the World Police, cuz police don’t protect people. Protecting our allies isn’t policing.

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      5 days ago

      Where has he said he wants to stop helping Ukraine? Haven’t he been quite vocal about wanting to end the war?

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        yeah. stopping support helps end it, but in russia’s favor

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          No, stopping US military aid will definitely not stop the war and I’m not aware of Trump even claiming he is going to end military aid. Disinformation until proven otherwise.

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            Trump has said many things about Ukraine. Gotta look at his actions :| he did get impeached for something involving Ukraine…

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              If he had said that you’d link me an article. He haven’t so you lie about it and justify it with orange man bad. Just shows how disinfo is spread by both sides.