• the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    A) These kinds of calculations change all the time. That’s why we have other companies that hire and fire people constantly or make other seemingly absurd decisions - the cost and benefit calculations change. There’s more money to be made in providing early deliveries, like one doctor said they would, than there is in sending patients (customers) on their way with no treatment and getting sued for it. Based on the hundreds of abortions that have happened in Missouri since the ban clearly other doctors think this is true.

    B) Allowing abortion in all cases would be a fallacious and nightmarish way to handwave human life as expendable in the name of bodily autonomy.

    You don’t want to kill people unnecessarily, do you? That would make you so callous as to be inhumane.

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      1 hour ago

      I’ll come back for one last comment to make this clear:

      It is never, EVER acceptable to force someone to use their body to save the life of another. Ever. CORPSES have more rights than that (you have to volunteer to be a donor before death).

      You want women to have fewer rights than corpses?

      And that’s without even arguing whether a clump of cells that can’t survive on its own is even considered a life.

      You can think someone sucks for having an abortion, and we can discuss what happens when a fetus could possible be viable on its own. But bodily autonomy is non-negotiable. If someone says “disconnect me from the thing attached to my body” you fucking do it. End of story. Call them horrible, callous, a sinner, whatever you want. But you do not force people to use their body as an incubator against their will.

      • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        Your claim is wrong. Parents and guardians are forced to use their bodies to provide for children after they’re born. They may not be inside the mother any longer, but if the child is harmed or killed, they’re liable for child abuse, manslaughter, murder, etc.

        The fetus has bodily autonomy as well. The woman’s body is made to accommodate the fetus, while no human being is made to accommodate organ harvesting. It is, by definition, a human organism, and thus a human being. A fetus is not a “thing.”