Friendica user: “You say you want the Fediverse to have this feature? The Fediverse has this feature. Mastodon doesn’t, but the Fediverse has. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. Friendica has it. Friendica has had it since its inception in 2010, over five years before Mastodon was launched. And Friendica has always been part of the Fediverse. And since Mastodon was launched, it has been federated with Friendica. So there.”
TWITTER before it turned to utter shit partially because its name was changed to “X”.
Hell even LEMMY is a Trochee and I think that’s part of why it’s managed to stand up to reddit this well!
Even the big names that AREN’T trochaic get truncated to trochees! INSTA! PIN-TREST!
They try to truncate Mastodon to Mast-o but people keep thinking THAT’S a reference to a disease too.
fucking hell
I’M MAD BECAUSE I WANT FEDVERSE SHIT TO SUCCEED AND IT’S LEAVING THIS PERFECTLY ACCESSIBLE LOW HANGING FRUIT TO ROT ON THE VINE WHEN IT NEEDS EVERY LAST FUCKING SCRAP OF HELP IT CAN GET
the best time to change it was before it was made.
the second best time is RIGHT. FUCKING. NOW.
and the longer they delay, the more painful it’s going to be getting passed up by BLUESKY.
mist park? i mean it could be the right rhythm if you stress MIST but why “mist”?
Mist is … like fog. It obscures. it also sounds like “missed”, which evokes a sense of loss.
Also the ‘stp’ in the middle is a phonetic stumbling block that REALLY hampers its casual pronunciation; in practice you’d end up saying “misspark” and people who hear it in conversation would not hear the ‘T’, go searching for it, and not find it because they have the wrong term.
why the fuck are they so consistently BAD at naming things???
why the fuck are they so consistently BAD at naming things???
Because the guy who developed Mistpark within four months in 2010 in his spare time on a budget of exactly zero didn’t have millions for hired marketing experts to design a name for something that literally had never been done before.
Trochee refers to a specific structure and rhythm found in some words within the English lexicon.
It’s about how many syllables there are, and which syllable(s) are accentuated.
Trochees are two-syllable words where the first syllable is accentuated. The word “English” is itself a trochee.
Like the other social media names I mentioned: TWIT-ter, FACE-book, DIS-cord, YOU-tube
They’re generally snappy and fun to say, especially to string together (such as in the XKCD comic I linked)
You can categorize every word in english as fitting some pattern of rhythm for its count of syllables
Mastodon has three syllables with stress (accentuation) on the first. MAST-o-don.
Its metrical categorization is called Dactylic, like these words:
BI-cy-cle, TYP-ic-al, EL-eph-ant, PO-et-ry, MUR-mur-ing, END-less-ly.
Good luck going around, putting the proverbial gun against the devs of way over 100 Fediverse projects that are fully independent from another (no, there is no central Fediverse branding department) and forcing them to rename their stuff NOW OR ELSE!!!
A few exceptions that are trochees right now:
Forte (which may pretty well be the Fediverse of 2030 by this logic)
Forte sounds AWESOME. Forte: GET LOUD! Love that! :D
Iceshrimp … oof. it ain’t the worst but frozen seafood ain’t exactly inspiring. Also the Sibilance-heavy junction is a little bit grating, might be a little inaccessible to people who have speech disabilities or aren’t used to the anglic lingual mishmashy hodgepodgery.
Sharkey? SHARKEY. HOLY crap. YES. SHARKEY! it’s playful, it’s bright, it’s fun, I don’t even know what it is but I wanna find out so I can USE it!
Mitra. Hmm… Huh. Okay… I could see that working. It strikes me with a cool sophisticated feel. An air of slick precision. Wonder if anyone else gets that vibe.
Lemmy is alright enough, kinda squishy but still fun. The lemming mascot motif is cute, although that tragic false factoid about lemmings all following each other off cliffs injects into the public consciousness an idea that users of lemmy might be victims of groupthink.
Mbin… dull woody sounds, reminds me of that sleep medication Ambien, but also bin like where you toss your garbage. But that doesn’t kill it. Bins are also used for storage of things you want to keep. I could see it surviving with that name.
PieFed, I don’t hate it! I appreciate the snackish pun. That could go places even if it feels a little silly.
PeerTube, its name is strongly descriptive. Could take off. Kinda hope it still could someday. No other notes.
Funkwhale. Heh. It’s just funny. Not terrible.
OwnCast could work out too
BookWyrm - the spelling of Wyrm evocative of DRAGONS covetously gathering knowledge in a treasure trove. That’s DAMN COOL.
Some of these are actually pretty dang good actually!
I don’t think anyone needs to be threatened into rebranding but informing them that a bad name might hold them back is just a statement of fact. None of us ARRANGED for these conditions. If they want to carve an ice sculpture in the middle of a volcano, pointing out to them that the environment is hostile to their project is in no way “threatening them”.
It’s bouncy and fun sounding with bright percussive phonemes. The “R” also gives it an energetic vibe.
Being a microblogging platform, it can both be a reference of how one truncates one’s messages, but also maintain the mammoth reference as well as sidelong imply the other definitions of ‘trunk’ which are also useful: a box where you keep stuff, and the central pathway from which other pathways branch.
You can keep calling the posts “toots” too.
However, I think “Favorites” should just be called Likes, or hell … updoots if you REALLY want to lean into the mascot.
If so, however, boosting and bookmarking should also be changed to align with the mascot.
Either call them Retoots … or Trumpets! And bookmarking can just be called “Remember” (because “Elephants Never Forget”)
Friendica user: “You say you want the Fediverse to have this feature? The Fediverse has this feature. Mastodon doesn’t, but the Fediverse has. The Fediverse is not only Mastodon. Friendica has it. Friendica has had it since its inception in 2010, over five years before Mastodon was launched. And Friendica has always been part of the Fediverse. And since Mastodon was launched, it has been federated with Friendica. So there.”
god damn why do so many federated services have such awful fucking names that feel disgusting to say
friendica sounds like a strain of bacteria that eats your ligaments
https://xkcd.com/856/
TROCHEES, MOTHER FUCKERS, USE THEM IN YOUR FUCKING BRANDING.
FACEBOOK. YOUTUBE. WHATSAPP. TIKTOK. SNAPCHAT. REDDIT. DISCORD. TUMBLR.
TWITTER before it turned to utter shit partially because its name was changed to “X”.
Hell even LEMMY is a Trochee and I think that’s part of why it’s managed to stand up to reddit this well!
Even the big names that AREN’T trochaic get truncated to trochees! INSTA! PIN-TREST!
They try to truncate Mastodon to Mast-o but people keep thinking THAT’S a reference to a disease too.
fucking hell
I’M MAD BECAUSE I WANT FEDVERSE SHIT TO SUCCEED AND IT’S LEAVING THIS PERFECTLY ACCESSIBLE LOW HANGING FRUIT TO ROT ON THE VINE WHEN IT NEEDS EVERY LAST FUCKING SCRAP OF HELP IT CAN GET
the best time to change it was before it was made.
the second best time is RIGHT. FUCKING. NOW.
and the longer they delay, the more painful it’s going to be getting passed up by BLUESKY.
bestie
frendo
callme
hangout
goobr
reindeer
sickduck
When Friendica was launched in 2010 (yes, it’s way older than both Mastodon and Lemmy, go figure), it was named Mistpark.
Which, to a German like me, sounds like “dung park” or “manure park”. Which, by the way, is the reason why Mike Macgirvin renamed it.
goodness, mistpark kinda sucks even in english
mist park? i mean it could be the right rhythm if you stress MIST but why “mist”?
Mist is … like fog. It obscures. it also sounds like “missed”, which evokes a sense of loss.
Also the ‘stp’ in the middle is a phonetic stumbling block that REALLY hampers its casual pronunciation; in practice you’d end up saying “misspark” and people who hear it in conversation would not hear the ‘T’, go searching for it, and not find it because they have the wrong term.
why the fuck are they so consistently BAD at naming things???
Because the guy who developed Mistpark within four months in 2010 in his spare time on a budget of exactly zero didn’t have millions for hired marketing experts to design a name for something that literally had never been done before.
You’re not wrong; Friendica, Diaspora, Pleroma, they all sound like some kind of bacteria or infection.
tfw my doctor tests me positive for Pleroma Friendica Diaspora 😭💀
What is a trochee? I looked it up but I don’t understand
Trochee refers to a specific structure and rhythm found in some words within the English lexicon.
It’s about how many syllables there are, and which syllable(s) are accentuated.
Trochees are two-syllable words where the first syllable is accentuated. The word “English” is itself a trochee. Like the other social media names I mentioned: TWIT-ter, FACE-book, DIS-cord, YOU-tube
They’re generally snappy and fun to say, especially to string together (such as in the XKCD comic I linked)
You can categorize every word in english as fitting some pattern of rhythm for its count of syllables
Mastodon has three syllables with stress (accentuation) on the first. MAST-o-don.
Its metrical categorization is called Dactylic, like these words:
BI-cy-cle, TYP-ic-al, EL-eph-ant, PO-et-ry, MUR-mur-ing, END-less-ly.
So… Fedi?
actually i think i’ve heard people call it Fedi and I think it’d catch on.
Maston
Fedverse
Friendic
These kinda suck, tbh. Might need a full rebrand.
Good luck going around, putting the proverbial gun against the devs of way over 100 Fediverse projects that are fully independent from another (no, there is no central Fediverse branding department) and forcing them to rename their stuff NOW OR ELSE!!!
A few exceptions that are trochees right now:
Forte sounds AWESOME. Forte: GET LOUD! Love that! :D
Iceshrimp … oof. it ain’t the worst but frozen seafood ain’t exactly inspiring. Also the Sibilance-heavy junction is a little bit grating, might be a little inaccessible to people who have speech disabilities or aren’t used to the anglic lingual mishmashy hodgepodgery.
Sharkey? SHARKEY. HOLY crap. YES. SHARKEY! it’s playful, it’s bright, it’s fun, I don’t even know what it is but I wanna find out so I can USE it!
Mitra. Hmm… Huh. Okay… I could see that working. It strikes me with a cool sophisticated feel. An air of slick precision. Wonder if anyone else gets that vibe.
Lemmy is alright enough, kinda squishy but still fun. The lemming mascot motif is cute, although that tragic false factoid about lemmings all following each other off cliffs injects into the public consciousness an idea that users of lemmy might be victims of groupthink.
Mbin… dull woody sounds, reminds me of that sleep medication Ambien, but also bin like where you toss your garbage. But that doesn’t kill it. Bins are also used for storage of things you want to keep. I could see it surviving with that name.
PieFed, I don’t hate it! I appreciate the snackish pun. That could go places even if it feels a little silly.
PeerTube, its name is strongly descriptive. Could take off. Kinda hope it still could someday. No other notes.
Funkwhale. Heh. It’s just funny. Not terrible.
OwnCast could work out too
BookWyrm - the spelling of Wyrm evocative of DRAGONS covetously gathering knowledge in a treasure trove. That’s DAMN COOL.
Some of these are actually pretty dang good actually!
I don’t think anyone needs to be threatened into rebranding but informing them that a bad name might hold them back is just a statement of fact. None of us ARRANGED for these conditions. If they want to carve an ice sculpture in the middle of a volcano, pointing out to them that the environment is hostile to their project is in no way “threatening them”.
At least Misskey is a trochee
Proposal for Mastodon: Trunky.
It’s bouncy and fun sounding with bright percussive phonemes. The “R” also gives it an energetic vibe.
Being a microblogging platform, it can both be a reference of how one truncates one’s messages, but also maintain the mammoth reference as well as sidelong imply the other definitions of ‘trunk’ which are also useful: a box where you keep stuff, and the central pathway from which other pathways branch.
You can keep calling the posts “toots” too.
However, I think “Favorites” should just be called Likes, or hell … updoots if you REALLY want to lean into the mascot.
If so, however, boosting and bookmarking should also be changed to align with the mascot.
Either call them Retoots … or Trumpets! And bookmarking can just be called “Remember” (because “Elephants Never Forget”)
I like that. They need to lean in to it
I think Friendica is a good name. And I don’t think it sounds like a bacterial strain that eats ligaments. I think of friendship when I hear it.
it’s the third weed type: sativa, indica, and friendica.
It’s a bad name in terms of marketing. When I read it, I think scheme, knock off, or cheap.
I get your point, but this has such “it’s gnu/linux” energy.