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    This meme is astroturf propaganda to try to discourage the working class. There are plenty of stories of insurance companies reversing their decisions and approving procedures that they had denied the day before, or not going through with plans to reduce coverage.

    That is what happens when the 1% are reminded that they are outnumbered 99 times, and that those with nothing to lose have nothing to fear.

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      Yep. This never depended one the efforts of one person. It’s going to take all of us working together, and filling in where we’re needed to do our part.

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    You really think this is over? Columbine was a shocking, once in a lifetime event when I was in middle school. By the time I was in college, school shootings were a fact of life. The only difference is that people weren’t rooting for school shooters. They may have caught this guy, but a new era of gun violence is just getting started.

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      Let’s watch how hard gun control gets pushed when the barrels are aimed at the puppet masters.

      Fellow lefties: If it’s safe for you to do so, acquire, train, and responsibly store. That is all.

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        Let’s watch just how nice conservatives are to their reps when someone puts gun control on them.

        I’ve kinda always wanted to see it.

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          I mean, someone literally drove up to one of their softball games and tried to kill them all, and they still didn’t support gun control. It won’t be until the majority of their billionaire oligarchics tell them it’s OK that they’ll start supporting it.

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        Sure, Congress will act, but the Supreme Court has spent the last 15 years making sure that even the most moderate, milquetoast gun reforms get struck down. I know the current Justices are hypocrites that make a mockery of precedent, but considering they’re the ones that created the precedent (particularly Alito, Roberts, and Thomas), it’s going to be hard for Congress to write a gun control law that doesn’t force several Justices to either strike it down or invalidated their own opinions.

        A constitutional amendment isn’t impossible, but I think the NRA would still have enough juice to prevent Congress from reaching a two-thirds consensus, and definitely enough to stop three-quarters of states from ratifying it. The billionaire class has spent a lot of money making gun control extremely difficult, and I think that’s about to bite them in the ass.

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        The only way they’ll get rid of most of the guns is by searching property to property. Many won’t comply with unconstitutional bans. And they don’t have the agreement to change the constitution about this. Too fucking bad, the working class will remain armed. I wish ammo hadn’t gotten so expensive though.

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          You’re right, unwarranted doorkicking for unconstitutional search and seizure is very unlikely, thankfully.

          I think dem-liberals have basically just used gun reform as a contrast to separate them from their opposition, but it’s had the side effect of giving many working class folks the false sense that the State is responsible for protecting them. The fringe-right neighbor-hating hyper-individualists have co-opted almost the entire narrative around the 2A conversation, and it sucks.

          Years of history of armed labor unions and working class heroes unremembered, the fruit of their sacrifice handed over willingly by ignorant descendants. It’s tragic.

          I used to be a lot more of a gun nut when I was younger. Now, I see them as an unfortunate necessity in an embattled, dark world, and nothing more.

          I wish ammo hadn’t gotten so expensive though.

          Yes! Every time I start to think “Hey maybe I should stock up a little…”

          There go the friggin’ preppers using their midlife crisis money to clear out the shelves of anything but the most obscure cartridges.

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    Nonsense.

    It was a wake up call for execs to quit their bullshit. It was a wake up call for the working class to band together.

    And there is still a very slim chance he gets acquitted/a not guilty verdict.

    The conditions that caused this event haven’t gone away. And all of the school shooter types have just been taught that you will be widely regarded as a folk hero for shooting an exec, so they may opt to change their targets for the better. We will probably see more exec shooters.

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    And a dead CEO. Take your wins where you can, it’s almost fascist season.

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    …and a cold dead CEO responsible for stealing our money and leaving us to die. You left that part out.

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      which is great, but let be honest : it accomplish nothing , unless as a reaction, people act and do something about billionaires rulling the world. one star review bomb wont cut it

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        A surgery that my little one needed was being denied by insurance two weeks ago. Yesterday when calling for the pre surgery instructions we were notified that last surgery was approved. So we were doing all three requested surgeries at once and only having to put her under once.

        I don’t know if this was the cause but there was a 180 on the approval.

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        Insurance companies behaved themselves for a few days. That’s already saved lots of lives, making the whole thing balance out as a positive.

        I’d be banned by the admins for suggesting how this momentum could be kept going.

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          This is ml. I don’t think violence against the rich or jury nullification can get you a ban

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            Their account is on lemmy.world so I’m not sure how it would be treated. We, however, are not.

            * ahem *

            Rhetoric: down with the bourgeoisie, eat the rich, sodomize the land-owners, impale all people who have more than 25 reál in their pocket, literally murder all human beings regardless of their political beliefs.

            spoiler

            https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Quotes/DiscoElysium

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              I think that the instance admins can’t ban their users in other instances communities or delete their comments. But the is one of this things that is weird about federation.

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        It sends a message and that message was heard. Rolling Stone and probably other outlets, published an article talking about the collective disdain that the working class has expressed in the wake towards the healthcare industry—a hatred that reaches across aisles. It’s a tiny reminder that the working class outnumber the ruling class. Don’t rule out more things happening. People get inspired.

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        which accomplish nothing

        Seems to have accomplished something. What are you doing about it? Trying to stir shit up from abroad I assume. How about you fuck right off and let us deal with it.

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    That douche bag CEO isn’t gunna get his life back and so on top of the reviews we got:

    • One dead asshole, hell yea.
    • That one company rolling back their decision to charge even more for anesthesia.
    • A whole lot of people learning even more about how fucked up healthcare really is.
    • A bit of an uptick in class solidarity
    • One step in the right direction.

    Shut the hell up, is what I’m trying to say.

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    What kinda fuckass McDonald’s worker calls the cops on a folk hero? This is why we will continue to be curb stomped by the boot.

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      A well trained, well beaten dog.

      An economic Uncle Ruckus. They train us from birth to see shame in not being wealthy, it sadly works. Some of our economy’s victims internalize their own dehumanization and see it as the natural order to report on their fellow inferiors to their betters.

      The same people mourning BriBris loss by hilariously trying to shame everyone for not condemning his murder while conveniently ignoring all the people he murdered through policy, and whose policies murdered people yesterday, and will today, tomorrow…

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        economic Uncle Ruckus

        The rich man provides us with meaningful work and purpose and we throw it back in his face by unionizing and wanting to take more of his money! We nasty poors must follow the rich man’s example and one day we may be as cultured and decent as he is.

        Praise the rich man and his benevolent ways!

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        Yeah, very well beaten… I was talking about Luigi at work today (EU person here) and when I said it is a young guy from a wealthy family, one dick stood up and said “oh, so it was just a spoiled kid?” And there’s probably much more people like this around me.

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      The difference between a wanted murderer and an unsung hero depends a lot on how much, and which, media a person consumes.

      I like to assume the average person is apolitical and pays only a passing glance at headlines.

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        That’s just it though, the “passing glance” types that don’t pay much attention to anything at all will just assume the truth is whatever headline runs across their “feed of choice” the most often. Usually from large corporate outlets.

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          Pretty much. It’s a tired analogy, but the “unawakened” people in The Matrix come to mind. They’re not helping the cause, but it’s not right to declare that they’re evil or deserve hate like OP was suggesting.

          They don’t know any better but that doesn’t mean they deserve ire. They’re reasonably reacting based on the information they have.

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    Someone mentioned how the first time there was a school shooter, everyone took note. And now we have school shooters. It’d be interesting if this became a thing.

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      First, another fucking Pennsylvania McDonald’s getting involved where it shouldn’t. I’m done eating at McDonald’s in Pennsylvania now.

      But I wonder if this was intentional. Now we all get to hear what he has to say. Hopefully he turns out to be a leader.

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    Did you expect some kind of mass uprising to happen the very next day? A hundred million people out in the streets, all armed to the teeth, hunting CEOs for sport?

    In this cartoon fantasy world of yours, what does “something coming from this” look like? Was his next stop going to be the White House where he would hold Biden at gunpoint until M4A is implemented?

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      Honestly my only hope is… that the lone gunman suicidal “I want to go down in a way to be remembered” kinds of shooters. Learn from this, and consider shooting a wealthy CEO instead of a school or movie theatre etc…

      I in no way want more violence… but I believe it would be nice if the “we can’t do anything about” violence, were more top of the power chain instead of bottom.

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        Realistically, if all the school shooters start going after CEOs instead (I certainly wouldn’t complain if they did) you’d very quickly see gun violence go from “unsolvable” to “very solvable”.

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            Oh no no, my friend. If the wealthy being gunned down results in gun control, it won’t be for them. There will be some kind of exemption for private security that will be extremely expensive to get. Those wealthy enough will be able to find ways of sourcing their own if they want one. We’d be the ones without guns in that scenario.

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              This already exists.

              In New York wealthy business people pay small town sheriffs to deputize them. As deputies they now have a right to concealed carry, even in places like NYC that have very strict gun laws.

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              I think you’re actually underestimating our dystopia. Private security/military already exist to the scale that the, literal, “war” aspect of a class war would make actual arms mostly irrelevant. I think at that point it’s just a numbers game.

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      Yeesh friend, kinda jumped down OP’s throat here, no? Seems pretty uncharitable to go from their posted meme to “this cartoonish fantasy world of yours”, and then take that even further.

      I mean, OP never really described any kind of “world” at all, just expressed disappointment. So I mean.

      …it’s kinda your cartoonish fantasy world, by definition, isn’t it? Whatever thing you’re imagining here? Weirdly hostile take.

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        Yeesh friend, kinda jumped down OP’s throat here, no? Seems pretty uncharitable to go from their posted meme to “this cartoonish fantasy world of yours”, and then take that even further.

        Uhm, are we looking at the same comic? Because it most definitely is making an assessment of the impact of the shooter’s actions. What’s the thing being impacted? I would say world. Charitable interpretation seems to me to point in the opposite direction of what you’re saying.

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          You’re defending a stranger who went hostile and attacked the poster of a meme in a place for memes. Spend your time however you like, I just can’t imagine how you or the original commenter I replied to are able to take the littlest stuff - posted to a JOKE community - and extrapolate out (AKA invent) a bunch of serious takes, and then disagree with those fictional takes. The OP posted almost nothing, to a meme community. What y’all are doing is Don Quixote stuff (or more accurately, straw man bullshit), but like I said, spend your time however you see fit.

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            You’re defending a poster who posted a meme that wasn’t very good.

            Spend your time however you like, but you’re spending a lot of time on this to be questioning how other people spend their time

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      Americans have been sold the “we need to defend our freedom” slogan for so long they forgot the “most powerful” army in the world is sponsored by the regular american to defend the rich against himself (the regular american) How can an uprise happend in the US if you guys gave your government all the power?

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      They were gonna but the corporate necromancer was out of network.

      Just kidding that’d be way too much effort for how they see human lives. They were likely hitting up LinkdIn before the body was cold.

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      No, the company used “appoint some other asshat to do the exact same shit” (or if they hasn’t yet they soon will)

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        “The last guy got killed in the street for doing this shit, you’re going to do the exact same shit right?”

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        It’s like the mustache-twirling movie villains when an underling gets merc’d for a hairbrained strategy:

        “Congratulations, number 3. You’ve been promoted! Go get 'em!”