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Durotar@lemmy.ml to Formula 1@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

[OT] FIA Formula 2 next generation car breaks cover in Monza

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Durotar@lemmy.ml to Formula 1@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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    I think Synthetic fuel, is not the right way to go. And not pushing vendors to produce something sustainable.

    Hybrid also offers “Boost”, since a driver can be tactical about when to use it.

    A lot of DNF is do to engine staling, and you are not allowed to get help for marshals.

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      A drop-in net zero fuel seems a better bet than expecting everyone to scrap their ICE cars and buy electric. I think there’s room for both

      Seb Vettel was at Goodwood this year running a synthetic drop-in fuel

      https://www.goodwood.com/media-centre/four-time-formula-1-world-champion-sebastian-vettel-to-attend-the-festival-of-speed-in-a-sustainable-fuel-exclusive/

      I’m not a big fan of boosts, I’d rather it was just pedal to the metal, but couldn’t the same be achieved by boosting the turbo?

      I’d have thought an electronic anti-stall like F1 would be better for performance than lugging around a starter motor

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        • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
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          Well the target is net zero by 2030. You have to start where you are, not where you want to be.

          https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f1-report-progress-towards-2030-net-zero-target/10482248/

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            • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
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              Good idea

              https://lailluminator.com/2023/08/11/biden-administration-directs-1-2b-to-carbon-capture-projects-in-louisiana-texas/

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              That’s why it’s net zero.

              We can capture co2 best in soil, not air

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            Well the target is net zero by 2030. You have to start where you are, not where you want to be.

            “Net zero” is a scam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8zAbFKpW0

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              I don’t have time for video sources

              Sequestration of carbon in soil, plus nuclear and renewable energy, plus hydrogen and other storage will do it.

              https://climate.mit.edu/explainers/soil-based-carbon-sequestration

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        Synthetic fuels still rejects CO2 in the atmosphere and most importantly it requires a ton of energy that doesn’t make it sustainable in the long term https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/synthetic-gasoline-promises-neutral-emissions-but-the-math-doesnt-work/

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          Synthetic fuel recycles carbon in the atmosphere, no new fossil fuel is required.

          Peaky renewables are ideal candidates for making the required hydrogen

          The carbon can be taken from a wide range of industrial byproducts

          The Germans developed synthetic fuels from hydrogen and carbon, coal, in the 1930’s to power their entire war effort, I think we can improve on that 100 years later.

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            The carbon can be taken from a wide range of industrial byproducts

            Best not to release that into the atmosphere.

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              Least worst options are all we have to transition off burning stuff that’s actually really useful and infinitely recyclable.

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        A drop-in net zero fuel seems a better bet than expecting everyone to scrap their ICE cars and buy electric. I think there’s room for both

        If you mean that this a stop-gap technology for existing ICE cars, true. If you mean that there should be room for new ICE cars hitting the roads: No. (Except maybe very specific niche uses for certain types of utility vehicles but not as popular road cars.)

        Seb Vettel was at Goodwood this year running a synthetic drop-in fuel

        Vettel stated on multiple occasions that he thinks that batteries are thrown away after an EV reached end of life. He completely ignores second life as stationary energy storage and recycling over and over again. He’s a cool dude but he’s also anything but an expert.

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          Yep, transition fuel and niche sports cars. V12s!

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