• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    Sony’s white-knuckle grip on their platform is an exciting hint of things to come.

    They’ve been cosplaying the PS2 era since about 2005. That’s when it became evident to everyone that games can just exist, and be for every platform, so long as the studio has a bit more money and time. Previously your game was for one gizmo, and you might hire some third party to follow up and coerce it onto another gizmo. Nowadays everything’s a computer and all computers work basically the same way. There’s details. There’s exceptions. But anything that doesn’t work the normal way becomes irrelevant.

    This nonsense is the only thing Sony can do to pretend Playstation is anything more than a brand name. Microsoft has stopped pretending and it’s weirding people out. Nintendo had a unique feature for their gizmo, as they do, but now they’re competing with Valve - on hardware - and their follow-up is probably a merely numeric upgrade.

    There are no platforms anymore. To consumers, there is nothing but software and obstacles.

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    17 hours ago

    Can you imagine a PS5, Switch or XBOX game that required a Steam account in order to play?

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      Half Life required an account at a time no game required accounts. Most PC games of the 7th gen required GFWL, so much so, without piracy, many are unplayable today. Microsoft still does this I.E. Doom Eternal where you’re required to enter a Bethesda account or the absolute shitshow minecraft has become. Most rockstar games on PC of the last decade required rockstar launcher, including steam releases.

      Other than GFWL, there has been very little pushback on these types of requirements. Funnily enough, sony is the last one to arrive and the one that gets the most pushback… People are weird.

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        11 hours ago

        Half Life required an account at a time no game required accounts

        Not disagreeing but it was at least a first-party account and there was a legitimate purpose. PS has none.

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          Not disagreeing but what was the legitimate purpose other than growing a platform with a popular game? You know, same as Sony.

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            The Steam Account is used to distribute updates etc. to the client. The PSN account has no such advantage, it doesn’t help me. How are they the same?

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              There were often patches for games that you could download from the developers website a the time. Yes, it is a bit more convenient to have a client that will automatically do that for you but it wasn’t necessary.

              People hated steam at the time because it took like 80mb of ram when 256mb of total system ram was not uncommon.

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                And how does the developer verify that you actually bought the game before letting you download the patch? Through an account.

                Sure, there were reasons to dislike Steam. That does not mean that PSN account requirements and Steam account requirements are comparable. Unless you can show me where I can use the PSN account to download updates for the games without requiring a Steam account?

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        I mostly agree with you but third party launchers and accounts have gotten pushback on PC for a long time.

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      I think if I wanted to play EA games online back in the day on PS3 I had to make an account and sign in and I remember how annoying as shit it was trying to type in a password and email with a controller.

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      I could, it’s not that difficult to imagine. Lots of companies have mandated their own account systems for console games, too.

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      Honestly, part 2 was so poorly done that you’re really not missing out on anything. You remember how violence oriented part 1 was? Do you remember how there were cutscenes that depicted violent actions that you had literally no control over? Do you by any chance recall the final events in part 1 that require you to take violent actions in order to progress the game in literally any perceivable way?

      Well part 2 drukkmann says, STOP THAT! Violence never solved anything idiot!!! Unless you didn’t play part 2 at all… In which case, I suppose violence was the only way, and it solves everything. Part 1 drukkmann literally couldn’t tell the story without assurance that you used violence.

      “And why was violence important to the narrative and success of part 1,” Jan asked…

      Mr. Brown says

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    Yep. No thanks. Games without online components should have one account to verify and store a copy of the game including saves, etc. That is Steam in this case. If you buy through Steam other accounts should be optional when you want to play online. I’m through with this garbage for offline games.

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    17 hours ago

    Curious how the version you download for free doesn’t have this requirement…

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    Otger than needing to sign into an additional account, why does everyone hate this so much? Halo makes me sign into a Microsoft account, but i havent seen nearly the amount of hate for that. Is there somerhing worse about PSN accounts? Not trying to start shit, just wondering what I’m missing.

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      Otger than needing to sign into an additional account, why does everyone hate this so much?

      1. It’s completely unnecessary
      2. Sony has a long history of leaking personal information
      3. Sony is most certainly selling your information for profit
      4. Sony’s servers suck ass. I literally can’t even make an account.

      Halo makes me sign into a Microsoft account, but i havent seen nearly the amount of hate for that.

      That’s because it’s old. Everyone complained about it when it came out with this requirement as well.

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      Games that assume I want to play online or be “connected” are the problem. I don’t want any of that. I want to pay for a game with my Steam or Microsoft account and play it offline with that one service I bought it from. At first it was annoying to make one new account but OK well not that bad. Now every developer has some sort of required “get connected”. F that. It provides no benefit only added barriers for a game they should be happy I even bought in the first place. Online games sure I get it, mixed should be optional but offline. No absolutely not.

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      For me it’s just about account fatigue. It’s just yet another fucking one-off account that will eventually get hacked the next time Sony has a cyber security breach.

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      And all the other games. HD2 is the only one where they ended up going back on it, a few days later it was announced that it would be a requirement for Ghost of Tsushima but no one cared anymore because “Not a requirement for HD2! Yay!”

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        A lot of the pushback on HD2 was because they initially didn’t require an account, then tried to force it on everyone. It would have locked out a lot of players who had already bought the game, but PSN wasn’t available in their region.

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    Is anyone surprised by this? Really? At this stage, after we’ve seen the lenghts that Sony has went to stuff PSN account requirements on even their offline singleplayer games?

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    17 hours ago

    I have one, but remembering the password and all that is too much effort.