• Fryboyter@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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    1 year ago

    In my opinion, users who already use vim are not the primary target audience of Helix. I see the target group more among users who want to switch from a “normal” editor to a modal editor. The selection → action model and the easier shortcuts probably make the switch easier for many. I personally don’t like vim at all because of the handling (purely subjective view). Helix will definitely not be my default editor but I get along much better with it than with vim or neovim.

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      1 year ago

      When I first tried Helix, my main concern (that prevented me from getting too far into it) was not going from Vim to Helix, but the other way around. Vim (or sometimes vi) is a standard editor on almost any Linux machine, so if I am ever working on a server if a VM, I would need to know/use Vim keybinds. That made Vim a more useful tool for me to learn at the time, as I could use the skills both on my machine and anywhere else.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t feel like this is true anymore. Many distros do not ship vi(m) anymore but only nano.

      • Fryboyter@discuss.tchncs.deOP
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        1 year ago

        Vim (or sometimes vi) is a standard editor on almost any Linux machine, so if I am ever working on a server if a VM, I would need to know/use Vim keybinds.

        I understand the argument, but in my opinion it is used far too often and is not always true.

        Not everyone works with servers on which they have no influence on the installed software.

        And in the few cases where I had to work with servers on which I had no influence on the installed software and on which actually only vim was installed, I could always use sshfs or rclone mount without any problems so that the editor I used didn’t matter.

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      I disagree with that. Yes users new to modal is likely a target - but as a long time and heavy vim user I do find helix to be much nicer to use and have switch to it full time. So I think that vim users that are sick of all the configuration and plugins needed to get it into a good state are also a strong target for helix.