From what I can gather from what little they want to share it’s very clear to me that they wanted to move to world to attract a larger audience and also so certain transphobic users could participate again. They also repeatedly claim that the community is the moderators rather than the users, which just makes it clear how out of touch they are.
Edit: Also, it’s super obvious the reason they don’t want to give over the old community is so people are “forced” to move to their new world community. They only care about number go up.
Anyway, people are really enjoying the new 196 community. By which I mean the [email protected] community that is growing by leaps and bounds every hour. In the last 3-4 hours there have been 80 posts, 900 users, 360 subscribers… by comparison, in [email protected] I see just 4 posts, one of which is the new set of regulations threatening people to be banned even before they read any existing posts (bc it’s pinned above them I mean).
Literally telling on herself that she’s inactive for weeks to months at a time. But yeah, definitely Ada’s fault for trying to actually moderate the largest comm on the instance. I think both sides here are at fault though, as I’ve seen (and been disappointed by) the way Ada moderates the matrix space she runs.
Tbf, Moss is only one mod among many (I count 10 in the sidebar) - the more damning portion is how it seems NONE of the mods were checking the modlog reports and resolving them.
Also, I don’t know the history of the [email protected] community but from what some comments said, at some point the community moved to lemmy.blahaj.zone and then had no mods, thus belonging entirely to Ada as the “owner”? And Ada,.as she said, has just been doing her thing since before 196 existed even on Reddit. It’s not her fault for simply living her authentic life - and rather sounds like the fault of whoever wanted to move the community from lemmy.world to Blåhaj (before abandoning it entirely into Ada’s hands to clean up the mess left behind).
This entire situation seems so fucked up from every side. The mods have responsibilities to both the admin as well as the users of the community. They ignored major parts to both of those, tried to move, failed, and now continue to step ever deeper into it with the more they reveal about their “internal voting” and such the worse that the community feels about it all.
It’s good to have choices though: if the new mods want to create a different space on Lemmy.World, that’s awesome? But they absolutely screwed up the communication about that.:-P
You don’t want you sysadmin doing content moderation. They’re used to back end work and purging/protecting their instance from the liability of its users. It should be expected an admin will be more stringent and authoritative than volunteer mods.
And yet that is precisely what the mods chose - by abandoning the community for days at a time (tbf they claimed to read it “daily” and thus be active - but the difference between that and actually checking the moderation reports submitted is an enormous gap!), they left it to her to have to clean up. She did not want it, but she stepped up nonetheless. Then they threw her under the bus and drove it over her.
I wish them luck in the new community. The rest of the community though seems to have different plans:-). e.g. [email protected] has 9 posts submitted in the last day (24 hours), and [email protected] has the same (10 but close enough), while for [email protected] I stopped counting when it reached that same amount in just the last 2 hours, and then I did continue just one more time to see that it again had that same amount in the previous 2 hours before that.
Also, a week ago that’s how many posts [email protected] had before the mods moved back to it. So that community basically has no new posts at all since the attempted move.
While the community with the new mods ([email protected]) has 10 times more posts than both of the other 2 communities combined. It’s as clear a signal as one could hope to hear that they were not fans of this whole process. They choose Ada and lemmy.blahaj.zone and the new mods over the old remote LW mods in charge of the LW community, even at the cost of the effort to move to another community.
Yeah but the new one here by Moss has an oldest comment of 1 day ago, I guess they made that before the announcement 14 hours ago. So it seems to have replaced the old one.
But yeah you get me: it’s not a “real” post about “rules” - except it is, but it is not a “really real” post about “Rules”, you feel me? :-P
From what I can gather from what little they want to share it’s very clear to me that they wanted to move to world to attract a larger audience and also so certain transphobic users could participate again. They also repeatedly claim that the community is the moderators rather than the users, which just makes it clear how out of touch they are.
Edit: Also, it’s super obvious the reason they don’t want to give over the old community is so people are “forced” to move to their new world community. They only care about number go up.
Well, technically they aren’t wrong.
Anyway, people are really enjoying the new 196 community. By which I mean the [email protected] community that is growing by leaps and bounds every hour. In the last 3-4 hours there have been 80 posts, 900 users, 360 subscribers… by comparison, in [email protected] I see just 4 posts, one of which is the new set of regulations threatening people to be banned even before they read any existing posts (bc it’s pinned above them I mean).
There is really no comparison here.
Literally telling on herself that she’s inactive for weeks to months at a time. But yeah, definitely Ada’s fault for trying to actually moderate the largest comm on the instance. I think both sides here are at fault though, as I’ve seen (and been disappointed by) the way Ada moderates the matrix space she runs.
Tbf, Moss is only one mod among many (I count 10 in the sidebar) - the more damning portion is how it seems NONE of the mods were checking the modlog reports and resolving them.
Also, I don’t know the history of the [email protected] community but from what some comments said, at some point the community moved to lemmy.blahaj.zone and then had no mods, thus belonging entirely to Ada as the “owner”? And Ada,.as she said, has just been doing her thing since before 196 existed even on Reddit. It’s not her fault for simply living her authentic life - and rather sounds like the fault of whoever wanted to move the community from lemmy.world to Blåhaj (before abandoning it entirely into Ada’s hands to clean up the mess left behind).
This entire situation seems so fucked up from every side. The mods have responsibilities to both the admin as well as the users of the community. They ignored major parts to both of those, tried to move, failed, and now continue to step ever deeper into it with the more they reveal about their “internal voting” and such the worse that the community feels about it all.
It’s good to have choices though: if the new mods want to create a different space on Lemmy.World, that’s awesome? But they absolutely screwed up the communication about that.:-P
You don’t want you sysadmin doing content moderation. They’re used to back end work and purging/protecting their instance from the liability of its users. It should be expected an admin will be more stringent and authoritative than volunteer mods.
And yet that is precisely what the mods chose - by abandoning the community for days at a time (tbf they claimed to read it “daily” and thus be active - but the difference between that and actually checking the moderation reports submitted is an enormous gap!), they left it to her to have to clean up. She did not want it, but she stepped up nonetheless. Then they threw her under the bus and drove it over her.
I wish them luck in the new community. The rest of the community though seems to have different plans:-). e.g. [email protected] has 9 posts submitted in the last day (24 hours), and [email protected] has the same (10 but close enough), while for [email protected] I stopped counting when it reached that same amount in just the last 2 hours, and then I did continue just one more time to see that it again had that same amount in the previous 2 hours before that.
Also, a week ago that’s how many posts [email protected] had before the mods moved back to it. So that community basically has no new posts at all since the attempted move.
While the community with the new mods ([email protected]) has 10 times more posts than both of the other 2 communities combined. It’s as clear a signal as one could hope to hear that they were not fans of this whole process. They choose Ada and lemmy.blahaj.zone and the new mods over the old remote LW mods in charge of the LW community, even at the cost of the effort to move to another community.
To be fair that post was in the old 196 as well. It’s a rules explanation thingy.
Yeah but the new one here by Moss has an oldest comment of 1 day ago, I guess they made that before the announcement 14 hours ago. So it seems to have replaced the old one.
But yeah you get me: it’s not a “real” post about “rules” - except it is, but it is not a “really real” post about “Rules”, you feel me? :-P