https://archive.ph/y0nY3

Summary:

The whole post seems strange to me, what do you all think?

Additional context: https://fedihosting.foundation/lw-team/

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    11 hours ago

    Sounds like Discuit should add apub integration. At this day and age it honestly baffles me that people like the devs of raddle and discuit go all like “No we don’t want to talk to anyone else. You have to join our walled garden!”

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 hours ago

      There are at least 4 or 5 forums on /r/Redditalternatives which could definitely benefit from ActivityPub, but they don’t see the appeal.

      One of them even asks for people credit card information to avoid bots

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        11 hours ago

        There are at least 4 or 5 forums on /r/Redditalternatives which could definitely benefit from ActivityPub, but they don’t see the appeal.

        Ye I know, it’s fucking bizarre. Every 6 months, a new reddit alternative comes up which doesn’t have apub and expects to get user by sheer charm or smt.

        One of them even asks for people credit card information to avoid bots

        Lol, at an age where people are preconditioned to assume this means a subscription lock-in and the rest don’t even own one, I wonder how many people took them up on that offer.

        I also love the naivety of thinking $3 once will stop spammers. As if that wouldn’t be a perfectly cheap amount to pay to spam all their users if they had a lot of them. Twitter has $8 a pop and it’s innundated with spam

        • psud@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          6 minutes ago

          There was a plan (never successful, not actualy possible to implement) to put a price on email - a fraction of a cent per message, with proof of payment encoded in the headers to make scam spam uneconomical

          That could never work with a reddit-like service, for money spam and for ideals trolling wouldn’t care about $50 a year.

        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          10 hours ago

          Ye I know, it’s fucking bizarre. Every 6 months, a new reddit alternative comes up which doesn’t have apub and expects to get user by sheer charm or smt.

          Well put. It’s a bit disheartening, because people put time and energy in those projects, that could be used to develop the existing open source platforms…

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            9
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            10 hours ago

            Software devs and their “I can build this better from scratch in one weekend” mentality, mate…

            • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              8 hours ago

              Maybe its old age and laziness, but at least 99 times out of 100 I think “someone else built this better from scratch in a weekend, I should check some git repos first”.

              If I find nothing, start a project, get it functional, and then randomly run across exactly what I’m looking for (or close enough with minor updates I can send upstream).

          • OpenStars@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            9 hours ago

            It’s a bit disheartening, because people put time and energy in those projects, that could be used to develop the existing open source platforms…

            Okay so while true, this is also highly ironic given the nature of the OP.😜

            I’ll restate your words as “instead of splitting our efforts, why not contribute towards enhancing the existing options…?” (I know the answer, I’m just saying it’s ironic 😛)

            • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              9 hours ago

              That’s fair 😄 As stated in the OP, in this case there is no effort to join on the LW community unfortunately 😅

              • OpenStars@piefed.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                5 hours ago

                I don’t know the game so therefore why you’d want to promote a second community for it, but if you feel that you want to, then go for it! But yeah you definitely seemed to have pissed off the owner of the previous one, so I’m not sure it’s worth that - and yet with all the delays in federation of content (not only to Australia and New Zealand but also I’ve definitely been impacted by it several times in the USA) I do see that there is some value there.

                I almost wonder if it’s worth offering to hand the new community over to Serinus if all you want is to help move some communities off of Lemmy.World. On the other hand, there are so many problems with that like how cross-instance mod reports don’t federate yet, and there seems to be some special reason (the specific computer coding) to keep that particular one on Lemmy.World.

                In that case then, is there any reason why Serinus should be particularly happy about you having created the other community, without consulting them first? All the more reason to not go into their community then and post advertisements to move over to the new one? Even if you meant well, Serinus may not see the same value in that which you do, so I think that was a bit of a mistake on your part. Even as Serinus’ reactions here and there are on them (which I told them as well, directly).

                You might rather enjoy working together to achieve both of your aims rather than being at odds with one another… ofc you do you, and whatever you feel you must, I just hoped that might spark something in you, even if I am too far removed to fully see all of the situation to make an accurate judgement call.:-)

                • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  5 hours ago

                  To be completely fair, I might not stick with the game much longer. The company which manages it recently enshittified it, so the player experience is getting worse and worse.

                  We’ll see!

                  • OpenStars@piefed.social
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    4 hours ago

                    Yikes, that happens so very often: they lure people in then abuse them for cash, just like Google and Microsoft and Apple and Meta and Reddit and X etc. It would be cool if people developed better open source alternatives.:-) But especially it gets so tricky with anything multiplayer bc people want so very badly to cheat:-(.