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I am becoming more conservative…we have to return to the old ways…let’s go fight Nazis in the streets
Me too. I’m conserving far more resources now than when I was younger. Heck, when I was a kid, I never recycled; then I became more and more of a recycler, and now I’m big into “reuse is better than recycling!” I fix when I can, rather than tossing and buying new. I’m waaay more conservative than when I was a kid.
And, like you, I’m ready to go out and kill Nazis, just like my granddad’s did.
Got any advice on reusing all the pill bottles I have from being broken?
I’ve looked into places that reuse them for pills but there’s like one ministry that takes them and I’d need to ship…
Totally nice bottles without labels and you can’t just take them back to the pharmacy or something…??? The fuck.
I refuse to put them into recycling, they won’t be… so I’m just sitting here with 100 or so bottles just… taking up space…
Give em a good wash and use them as seed containers, whether for single plant species or for mixes
Thanks, that’s a good use :)
I actually already have dozens for that sort of thing (as well as beads and other craft supplies, and screws and other construction-type supplies). I’ve been broken for a hot minute (have taken meds most of my life), so I have so many pill bottles. So many.
But maybe I should go ahead and keep them for my farm. I might need real organization. Fuck. Can I hire someone for that…? Fuck.
Old pill bottles would work fine for spices! Or… Buy pills in bulk, and then divvy them up into the smaller bottles. Or, if they are the orange bottles, put little LED lights in them for a warm diffuse ambiance.
I wish I could get my pills in bulk but I can’t. I get three new bottles every 90 days like clockwork. Sometimes I even get more! Yay!
I don’t have enough spices for them. Especially since I keep my spices in sealed glass. But if I didn’t that would be a great use!
The light idea is interesting, but you have to really like orange light, and I don’t ;)
Nope. Utterly stupid. Pharmacies aren’t allowed to refill bottles you bring in, they’re often enormous compared to what they contain, but they’re also awkwardly small for any around-the-house use. Even if you superglued a bunch together for an improv screws and nails container, they wouldn’t hold many.
I’m sure someone’s found a use for those, but I think for the most part it’s just shit that’s going to end up in our brains eventually.
Have to agree all around.
Intensely frustrating.
Even after finding out that Recycling is mostly bullshit? You still do it? I mean, I’d do it if I could ensure it was actually happening, but in most places it simply doesn’t and goes to the landfill anyhow.
Glass and metal recycling do happen as far as I know but yeah plastics is mostly bs
To add to that; paper recycling is pretty damn good too. I try to buy products that use paper/cardboard packaging and products that use recycled paper.
I thought they don’t really recycle a lot of paper goods from residential waste streams due to contamination (grease and the like)…? That’s why direct-ship companies are worse for the environment than big box retailers (also the fact that they get them in big boxes rather than a tiny box just for you)
Personally I just save all my paper products (except highly inked or laminated) and grow mushrooms on them. Free food rather than landfill, the ultimate recycle.
Oysters love cardboard and paper, or basically any wood product. Most other fungus does not take to it as readily, so it’s a really easy culture to keep going :)
Despite doing recycling where I live, they explicitly do not recycle glass. Safety hazard, maybe?
Recycling itself isn’t mostly bullshit, plastic recycling is bullshit. If you look into it, most mass-produced products made of “recycled” plastics are actually made from in-factory plastic waste, which companies do for literally everything since it’s just a waste of money not to use offcuts in the next batch of pretty much anything. Now, instead of just mixing those offcuts into new batches, they simply hold onto them until they have enough for a whole batch, and now they can legally call the product “made of 100% recycled material” even though it’s still essentially made of virgin plastic. Paper, glass, and aluminum are all pretty heavily recycled in most places.
Cut plastic out of any facet of your life that you can, but it’s such a small amount of plastic compared to corporations, even in places you wouldn’t expect. Honestly anyone whose worked in the backroom of a grocery/department store knows just how much plastic goes into wrapping pallets to be stored on shelves, only to have throw that plastic away the next day for stocking, then re-wrapped again.
You utterly skipped over the part where I claimed that I’m a “re-user is better than recycling?” Why? Just to take a dig at recyclers? On a joke comment?
I have to give it to you: you’re committed to your crusade, that’s for sure.
Ironically I’m heading from the USA to the heart of Germany but as a coward.
Left as a kid, then drifted to center. On track to that point. But then, slow burn left from 40 years old through early 50s, and then a hard sprint left. Conservatives when I was young seemed like bitter dried up out of touch assholes most of the time, and as I’ve become older I’ve discovered they are also bigoted racist misogynist assholes who will suck off any leader who promises to hurt the right people for them.
I don’t think I could possibly live long enough to want to associate myself with those fuckers.
Similar path, but with a more classical libertarian bent (not the bullshit republican that lives weed and is fixated age of consent stuff thankfully). Hard left turn after being disengaged third party about 10 years ago.
Am now old and get more radicalized by the day.
I had a bit of a libertarian phase. It really did just take a moment to really think about the ideas and realize how silly they ultimately are. It does not help that even at their best their outcomes favor the wealthy.
Agreed. While mutual aid is a wonderful idea (and practice), we need a robust functioning government for all sorts of infrastructure and support.
For sure. Tho I am from Texas so most of the Libertarians I learned about were more of the Right Libertarians. Typically some kind of anarcho capitalist. Which has all of the unsavory aspects of not helping anyone and strange “honor” system that no one is going to swoop in and dominate to rebuild our current system (because why would you not)
If you’re American, it could well be that you remained centre the whole time but the US political spectrum shifted below you, so now you feel substantially left.
Or not .
That’s a fair analysis and hard to say with objectivity. I had and deleted a couple long responses here before realizing I am unwilling to try addressing that to the required level of depth just because I’m too lazy for that much typing.
I also acknowledge that the whole left right thing is calibrated differently over here. 😁
But, relative to my peers at the time, I think I’m not too far off…
Hear hear
I’m gonna be 40 next month and I just keep moving further into anarchism.
Yeah! It is super interesting!
Hand signals and direct voting.
Super hard to filter out the BS though.
I was libertarian in my 20s.
Now I’m 40 and –
ARISE, YE WORKERS FROM YOUR SLUMBER…You have nothing to lose but your chains!
I’ve only gotten more progressive as time goes on because of all [gestures vaguely] this.
I think the prevailing idea at the time was that you would become more conservative as you accumulated wealth and property, and while I can’t confirm or deny that I would be more conservative if I were as wealthy as my parents were when they were my age, I can attest that the accumulation of wealth and property on which this notion is predicated has not happened for myself and my peers.
Is it any wonder, when told that we will own nothing and be happy by people who have never worked a day in their lives, that we want to burn it all down and piss on the ashes of those who oppress us?
I see memes like this all the time though I’ve never actually heard that outside of memes.
Personally, I used to be more conservative when I was younger and more naive (and being conservative was less vitriolic).
I believe it comes from misunderstood studies that find out that people tend to become more conservative as they age, but the studies aren’t about the political meaning of conservative, but about our behavior of tending to avoid risks and seek stability as we age.
Same.
I went from middle (trying to reason with it) to left with:
“Maybe businesses are what saves us because the government continues to fail us” to “Star Trek was a dream scenario. We’re headed towards cyberpunk.”
I had a civics teacher tell the class that once. He also fed us a bunch of other conservative bs.
That’s the lie they told themselves when they found out they were pieces of shit and not being young and dumb.
Makes it palatable.
At least they had an incentive to vote the cons in back in the day, because (I think) the fiscal policy was working for the boomers as they continues to gain wealth throughout their lives. So if they just wanted to fuck over the have-nots, there was at least a reason they could give.
But how can they expect the younger generations to vote for pieces of shit when none of it even gives us more money? They want to be the elites while forgetting that the “bread” that accompanies the “and circuses” is pretty crucial in suppressing the masses. Hungry people start wheeling out the guillotines pretty sharpish if it looks like they’ll be staying hungry.
I am still what’d I’d consider liberal but will admit I’ve gotten a bit annoyed with the Democratic party in recent years.
They’re just so goddamn ineffectual. No way I’d vote for the other side, but holy shit can they please stop it with the unforced errors? Just go back to courting the working class with economics and then lobster them into social change.
People don’t become conservative as they age, they become conservative as they accumulate wealth which in the past has typically correlated with age. Once they have wealth they want to protect it.
Nowadays people don’t accumulate wealth as easily so it takes longer before they develop more conservative views.
It’s an “I got mine, screw everyone else” tendency.
I identified as moderate, or progressive conservative, and at least intended to vote that way. in my 30s (Not American but adjacent, we haven’t had an election since I entered my 30s and im 32.)
but then I just kept seeing the self identifying conservatives, basically being a hair away from goose-stepping. r/conservative is fucking terrifying, its a good thing im banned from reddit.
(Turns out Im probably a NeoLib / NeoCon, Not down with the super progressive stuff but still tolerant of it. Just wanting people to chill the fuck out with their rhetoric. but apparentley, My kind is dead now, so . Maybe its time for Yee-haw fuck the law?)
It sounds like you’re too worried about belonging to some group.
not particularly, voting issues are far too complex to neatly align everyone into a broader tent without some kind of gross overlap issue. but I’d at least like to know what general direction Im supposed to be sitting.
I’m 46; the older I’ve gotten the more socialist I’ve become.
I’m 53 and probably more liberal than I was in my 20s.
That image IS conservative, tho…
Conservationist?
Conservative as in contrary to progress and a return to older ideologies.
Wonder why conservatives are all neoliberal tho? Wonder why history in their books goes back to a certain time and no further?
Ah, yes, all those “Neoliberals” on Hexbear telling people “both sides are bad” and promoting Donald Trump and AfD.
Aren’t slrpnk users supposed to be anarchists? Doesn’t that basically make you libertarians as far as modern policy is concerned?
Anarchists are not libertarians, at least not insofar as Americans understand libertarianism. The so-called Libertarian US party is right-libertarian. Anarchists are left-libertarian. Little-L libertarianism in this case refers to the opposite of authoritarianism.
But not all punks are anarchists anyway.
Neoliberalism however is an economic policy based on the renewal of classical liberalism and free market capitalism. It is a conservative ideology, shared by many Republicans and Democrats alike. Republicanism is based on classical liberalism.
In theory Anarchists aren’t Libertarians, but in practice? They seem to have exactly the same stances: weaken government, deregulate.
Hey no need to downvote, just trying to have a conversation, not a fight.
I’m telling you they don’t have the same stances: one is leftist, the other is far-right. One is anti-fascist, the other is willing to partner with neo-fascists so long as it benefits their self-interest (case in point, Jan 6 insurrection).
Anarchists, like communists, want society to evolve beyond statism because they both see the state as fatally flawed at best and an oppressor at worst. An anarchist is someone who doesn’t need a cop to make them do the right thing. It’s not so much that anarchism is for deregulation and weak government as it for a society where all power is with all the people. In practice, instead of relying hierarchies, such as government as we know it, anarchists use politics like consensus decision-making to form community agreements. Anarchism, in this way, is a development of direct democracy.
Perhaps your judgment against anarchism has to do with encounters with anarcho-egoism and anarcho-capitalism? These two ideologies are incompatible with classical anarchism, which is based on mutual aid. Or maybe you’ve encountered anarcho-primitivism, which I’d agree is perhaps as conservative as it gets lol.
In the interest of vulnerability, I mostly align with anarcho-syndicalism or anarcho-socialism with some hints of post-anarchism to form my theory and practice for how to develop a mutual society that doesn’t require the state.
Have a nice day!
