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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

last weekā€™s thread

  • froztbyte@awful.systems
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    in which karpathy goes ā€œeh, fuckitā€:

    a tweet by andrej karpathy, text below

    karpathy tweet text

    Thereā€™s a new kind of coding I call ā€œvibe codingā€, where you fully give in to the vibes, embrace exponentials, and forget that the code even exists. Itā€™s possible because the LLMs (e.g. Cursor Composer w Sonnet) are getting too good. Also I just talk to Composer with SuperWhisper so I barely even touch the keyboard. I ask for the dumbest things like ā€œdecrease the padding on the sidebar by halfā€ because Iā€™m too lazy to find it. I ā€œAccept Allā€ always, I donā€™t read the diffs anymore. When I get error messages I just copy paste them in with no comment, usually that fixes it. The code grows beyond my usual comprehension, Iā€™d have to really read through it for a while. Sometimes the LLMs canā€™t fix a bug so I just work around it or ask for random changes until it goes away. Itā€™s not too bad for throwaway weekend projects, but still quite amusing. Iā€™m building a project or webapp, but itā€™s not really coding - I just see stuff, say stuff, run stuff, and copy paste stuff, and it mostly works.

    skipping past the implicit assumption of ā€œwell, just have a bunch of money to be able to keep throwing the autoplag at the wall until something sticksā€, the admissions of not giving a single fuck about anything, and the straight and plain ā€œwell, it often just doesnā€™t work like we keep promising it doesā€, imagine being this fucking incurious and void of joy

    Iā€™m left wondering if this bastard is running through the stages of grief (at being thrown out), because this sure as fuck reads like despair to me

    • self@awful.systems
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      I ask for the dumbest things like ā€œdecrease the padding on the sidebar by halfā€ because Iā€™m too lazy to find it

      this is so much slower (in both keystrokes and raw time, not to mention needing to re-prompt) and much more expensive than just going into the fucking CSS and pressing the 3 buttons needed to change the padding for that selector, and the only reason why this would ever be hard is because theyā€™re knee deep in LLM generated slop and they canā€™t find fucking anything in there. what a fucking infuriating way to interact with a machine.

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        come on donā€™t you like waiting 1s+ for every single action you ever want to take? itā€™s the hot new thing

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          React has entered the chat (donā€™t try talking to it yet though, it has to ā€œasynchronouslyā€ load every individual UI element in the jankiest way possible)

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      This reinforces my judgment that the ultimate customers for code-completion models are people who donā€™t actually want to be writing code in the first place.

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      So after billions of investment, and gigawatt-hours of energy, itā€™s now ā€œnot too bad for throwaway weekend projectsā€. Wow, great. Letā€™s fire all the programmers already!

      Apart from whatever the fuck that process is, it is not engineering.

      And to think that people hated on Visual Basic onceā€¦ in comparison to this stuff, it was the most solid of solid foundations.

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        thatā€™d be easily terawatt-hours i think. just muskā€™s server farmā€™s generators are 100MW, and draw who knows how much from grid, and if it runs for a year and two months at that power thatā€™s 1TWh. and thereā€™s google, ms, amazon, whatever chinese are cooking,

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        So after billions of investment, and gigawatt-hours of energy, itā€™s now

        on the level of a ā€˜build your own websiteā€™ site. They are the wysiwyg users now.