How would you answer this, and how would you expect Chinese netizens on Xiaohongshu to answer?

I will link to the thread in the comments because I want you to take a moment and think about it first.

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    There’s meaningful critique of the USSR, yes. Being founded in the United States to serve as a watchdog over the Soviets at the height of the Cold War while the United States was licking its wounds after commiting untold masses of war crimes in Vietnam is the peak of hypocricy and purely exists to slander Communism. Moreover, the USSR was not Imperialist, it stood against Imperialism by supporting Cuba, China, Vietnam, Algeria, Palestine, Korea, and more liberate themselves from Imperialism and Colonialism.

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      do y’all ever get tired of the genocide denialism circlejerk? don’t you feel pathetic to do the job of Russia and China for free? at least get new material besides "X is anti-US, therefore X anti-imperialist and therefore communist ". it’s called being a tankie

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        I don’t know, will you ever get tired of US disinformation about Chinese local & federal government’s responses to the CIA-backed terrorist attacks in Xinjiang?

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        The UN report says that while the camps may constitute crimes against humanity, they aren’t genocidal. The claims of genocide come from Adrian Zens, a far-right Christian Nationalist that, get this, believes he was given a mission from God to discredit China. US-based media spreads these as “claims” because there’s no punishment for spreading these claims, and if no evidence comes out of these crimes of excess then they can rely on having only reported “claims.” What Qiao Collective states is in line with the UN report and what the visitors China has invited from the Middle East to investigate back up.

        As for the logical pretzel you created at the end, that’s just condescending. Many non-Communist groups are anti-US, like the Russian Federation, which is fully Capitalist. There are plenty of reasons to oppose the US without being Communist. However, there are AES states that go against the US as well.

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          Adrian as reprehensible as he might be is only circulating data that’s been leaked from Chinese Police databases full of thousands of pictures of Uyghurs in concentration camps.

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qihtvw6e/the-faces-from-chinas-uyghur-detention-camps

          What Qiao Collective states is in line with the UN report and what the visitors China has invited from the Middle East to investigate back up.

          you can’t have it both ways. if you wanna be a tankie at least don’t rely on western alligned monarchies to support your alternative facts.

          https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/china-uyghurs-condemn-islamic-scholar-propaganda-trip-xinjiang

          the irony isn’t lost on me that you’re basing your genocide denialism on paid propaganda from government clerics going on supervised tours, who also support Israel in their genocide of Palestinians. also the irony that all tankies engaging in anti-Uyghur genocide denialism are simply regurgitating 9/11 “terrorist” propaganda but they like it this time because China lightly repackaged it, put a red bow on top and made it their official policy.

          I support justice for Uyghurs because I follow Uyghur activists and academics, I couldn’t give a shit about Zenz. Unlike you, we don’t have a daddy fetish where we have to blindly follow a great leader.

          there’s no such thing as socialist states. that’s just stalinist “communism in one country” fascist bs

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            Funny that you link the BBC, given their historical willingness to lie on the subject and continue to report the ludicrous 10,000 dead at Tian’anmen figure that was the sole claim of a British diplomat that fled the square before the PLA arrived, and later was confirmed to have been a fabrication. Hundreds died that day, maybe low thousands, not 10,000, yet the BBC both knows that and reports otherwise. BBC also got caught doctoring images to make China seem “depressing” that they swapped back after getting called out.

            Either way, Zenz is a known liar, works for the “Victims of Communism” propaganda outlet, and was commisioned by the BBC to fight China, which he believes is the “Anti-Christ.” Moreover, he misrepresents numbers, such as 8% new IUD rates as 80% new IUD rates, to give an idea of forced steralization that doesn’t exist. As for XPF? Check out https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/en, then the glasses picture, https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/wp-content/uploads/dt_imgs/20180515184435950_653121197306.jpg, pretty damning. BBC recieved these photos straight from Zenz, a known liar. We know there are camps, either way, but Zenz is a serial liar and you trust him, why?

            As for Socialism, I have no genuine clue what you mean by there not being able to be a Socialist state. Marx and Engels both believed in the necessity of a state until global communism is achieved and all property is collectivized, at which point there are no classes and thus no state, only administration. Moreover, it was Socialism in One Country, not Communism, which is necessarily global. Why am I unsurprised that you get basic facts wrong?

            You don’t support Uyghurs, if you did you’d actually care enough to look into your sources.