Exactly, alexa/google or whoever is financially incentivized to make sure their product continues to work.

Bob at home labs and his integration are just passion projects. For which I respect, but I don’t want to tinker with it when a new model of light comes out that breaks everything.

Just put everything on its own vlan and let it talk to other iot and the internet and that’s it. Sure they are scalping some data but that’s a price in willing to pay for the convenience