• yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    You use singular they every single day or at most every single week and you have for your entire life and so did all of your English speaking ancestors including middle English.

    'how far out is the pizza guy’s ‘they’re 15 minutes out’

    ‘my coworker was a pain in the ass today’ ‘what they’d do this time?’

    ‘i think my doctor is famous’ ‘oh what’s their name?’

    They was singular before it was plural, and it’s singular use is still one of the most common pronouns in English.

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      12 hours ago

      Every example you provided was extremely unambiguous and without anything that might require distinction between singular and plural. Often language isn’t that simple. For example, “Fion had finally joined the party and they were happy about it.” Who does “they” refer to in that context? Yes, you can write/speak your way around it, but that adds extra difficulty that isn’t suited for casual speaking/writing. That is why people (who aren’t transphobes) don’t like it as a pronoun and would rather have a new word.

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        12 hours ago

        In your sentence they unambiguously refers to fion. It’s really not that hard for a fluent speaker. I’m not a native and this shit is simple, it’s unwritten but innately known like the order of adjectives when multiple are present.

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          7 hours ago

          When I was writting that, I assumed it was about the party, so clearly not so unambiguous. It could conceiveably refer to either - doubly so in casual speech where rules are bent. Fill up a books worth of text about a character using they/them pronouns (esspecially written by a bad writer) and you get confused often.

          To be clear, in ideal English, its easy to use. Most English is not ideal, with words being changed, dropped, reordered, ect. based on the speaker or writer’s whim in the moment. All that is before factoring in regional varients of English.